Many people claim that President Barak Obama is a Socialist. Well, thats not 100% true. Obama is what you would call a Democratic-Socialist. Something that real Socialist despise. I would encourge all of you to do some real research on what true Socialism is, and the difference between what most Americans see it as.
It doesn't matter what kind of "socialist" he is. Socialism is immoral, unethical, and backwards. Any form of it.
It's a big difference between "social" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social and "socialist" ("socialism") http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
incorrect. however Capitalism is destructive, abusive, and restritive to freedom. Socialism offers complete freedom for the indivisual and a society that works together and peacefuly.
How are you going to ensure that everyone complies without resorting to a central authority such as a government?
No thanks, I have lived for 33 years of socialism. I advise you not to try,but if you want you only try. But not with me together
youre argument is based on Social-Anarchism. Not socialism. Its still possible for a socialist nation to have central government. just to make the point, all Anarchist are Socialist, not all Socialist are Anarchist
No, there are individualist anarchists, too. And that doesn't even address my point; if you have your ideal stateless society, how will you ensure that everyone is made equal if there is no state to force them to be?
Indivisual Anarchist are socialist. you dont seem to understand what Socialism is. it has nothing to do with a stateless society. thats Social-Anarchy
Socialism inherently violates the property rights of individuals and obliges the individual to accept the will of the collective. It's anti-individualist. Okay, How is "social-anarchy" going to maintain itself with no government?
Socialism garuntees property rights. You have shown absoultly no idea what socialism is. Please do some research. thats not the topic
No, you've shown that you have no idea what the hell you're talking about. I don't care what flavor of socialism you're twisting, all forms of socialism are immoral, unless all of the people within a socialist community each individually and willingly agree to share and work together.
Socialism is an economic and political theory based on public ownership or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.[1][2][3] In a socialist economic system, production is carried out by a public association of producers to directly produce use-values (instead of exchange-values), through coordinated planning of investment decisions, distribution of surplus, and the use of the means of production. Socialism is a set of social and economic arrangements based on a post-monetary system of calculation, such as labor time or energy units.[4] You understand something else than the above definition?
no, you have. Since everything you keep saying either refernces to Social-Anarchy or.... Well bullshit Capitalism is immoral by causing lower classes to be slaves to upper classes
Capitalism doesn't "cause" anything. People do. Capitalism just relies on individuals owning property, and their interactions stem from that private property. There's absolutely no reason why a group of individuals couldn't buy a piece of real estate, get some homes and develop a community wherein they all share equally and work together in a "capitalist" private-property based society.
