Off-topic posts from the "Evidence that God is real" thread

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  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Oh! So it’s just some nonsensical diversion tactic. No problem then.

    Jan.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    In WLC's works.

    Google it.

    GOOGLE IT!

    Goo!
    Gle!

    Here a giant bag of GOOGLE IT, just for you!

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!




    What Jan has made this thread.
     
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  5. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    The inevitable atheist breakdown.

    Start whining about how long the thread is, or trash it.

    You’re nothing if not predictable.

    Jan.
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    If it’s true you should be able to quote me.

    You mean it’s your logic.

    You’re funny!

    Jan.
     
  8. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Lol!!!

    You’re funny.

    Jan.
     
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Sure thing!

    " I put forward Bill Craig. His arguments are not only well documented over the net, but isolated from his writings. This means you don’t have to sift through tons of literature to finally get to his arguments. I also said any one of them can apply."
    "If you want clarification you CAN discuss it with Bill via his website."
    "You don't accept Bill Craigs evidence? No surprise there then."
    "Check out Bill Craig. I'm fine with the evidences he put forward."
    "Check out Bill Craig, I'm okay with that evidence."

    Sad that you are so limited that you can't remember what you posted, though.
    Nope. It is simple logic.

    X says Y.
    "I believe what X says."
    Therefore, you believe Y.
     
  10. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Ok. You said:... You said that you believe what Bill Craig does. You have said this at least a dozen times.

    I know that I said I'm okay with Bill Craigs evidence (obviously). Are you with me thus far?
    Can you quote where I said I believe what Bill Craig DOES.
    Let me repeat that in case you missed it.
    Can you quote where I said I believe what Bill Craig DOES.



    [/quote}Nope. It is simple logic.

    X says Y.
    "I believe what X says."
    Therefore, you believe Y.[/QUOTE]

    Here is a quote from your atheist mentor Joseph Stalin...

    “the Easiest Way to Gain Control of a Population Is to Carry Out Acts of Terror. the Public Will Clamour for Such Laws If Their Personal Security Is Threatened.” – Joseph Stalin

    X says Y
    ''I believe what x says''
    there you believe Y

    jan.
     
  11. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Regardless of what you think of it, it is pretty much the state of affairs: you trash threads. Fortunately, as diseases go, you don't seem to be contagious. One day you may even be suitably contained. Or vaccinated against.
    You mean you haven't Googled Sean Carroll?
    Why what? Why should you close the lights off on your way out? Because you'll be the last one left in this thread once you've trashed it to your satisfaction.
    Why have I not once talked about what you regard as evidence? But I have, Jan. You just seemed to have missed the part where you needed to Google it.

    See - you offer no discussion. You want no discussion. Seemingly ever. In this case you have merely pointed to the internet and said "Nothing to see here: discussion that-a-way! Google it all!" and wonder why people think you trash threads. Maybe if the evidence didn't stack that way?
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    As soon as you mentioned him.

    jan.
     
  13. river

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    Really ;

    So the evidence that god is real is ......?
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    You BELIEVE what Bill Craig BELIEVES. "Believe what he does" is a way, in English, to say that you believe the same as he.
    And here's a quote from your mentor:

    1) We are all obligated to do God’s will.
    2) God’s will is expressed in the Bible.
    3) The Bible forbids homosexual behavior.
    4) Therefore, homosexual behavior is against God’s will, or is wrong.

    (BTW I am not an atheist. I would not expect a narrowminded theist to understand that, though.)
     
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  15. river

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    (BTW I am not an atheist. I would not expect a narrowminded theist to understand that, though.)

    Why not ?
     
  16. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Craig does not tell us which of the claims he believes are evidence really are, which are merely his beliefs, and how to tell them apart. You endorsed the entire pile.

    To the ordinary reader, pretty much everything Craig presents as premises, claims, and bases of argument, is stupid enough to drool. (The possibility of any God is evidence for the existence of Craig's Creationist Gaysmiter ? A shaky argument against the possibility of any God, at best.) But assigning particular drooling stupidity to a poster here, when they have not explicitly and particularly claimed it for themselves, is suspect form - more in the line of fundie posting.

    So you hide behind the institutionalized tolerance of this forum, to gain a platform for repetitive disparagement - personal attack - on anyone and anything that answers to reason. So do the rest of the oA theists, here and on science forums generally, all over America and many other places.

    And that's an interesting pattern.
     
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  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Because many (most) theists define "theist" as "people like me." Therefore, people not like them are atheists.
     
  18. river

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    I understand

    As most abrahamic cults think .
     
  19. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Have you not been paying attention?

    jan.
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    On why gays are immoral/evil:
    "1) We are all obligated to do God’s will.
    2) God’s will is expressed in the Bible.
    3) The Bible forbids homosexual behavior.
    4) Therefore, homosexual behavior is against God’s will, or is wrong."

    That is stupid.

    On why genocide / murdering children is OK:
    "God knew that if these Canaanite children were allowed to live, they would spell the undoing of Israel. The killing of the Canaanite children not only served to prevent assimilation to Canaanite identity but also served as a shattering, tangible illustration of Israel’s being set exclusively apart for God. Moreover, if we believe, as I do, that God’s grace is extended to those who die in infancy or as small children, the death of these children was actually their salvation."

    That is stupid.
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No such thing exists.
     
  22. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    How do you know that?

    Jan.
     
  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    @bilvon

    Yazata posted WLC’s arguments for evidence that God is real.
    I didn’t see anything that resembled anything you posted.
    Perhaps you can explain you came about that information.

    Jan.
     
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