Allright, a lot of Athiest and A LOT of Theists are closed minded I've noticed. Not opening up to the other point of view, no empathy. Now I am an atheist (though in my new philosophy this does not matter truely) however I have read the bible and the theologic works of Saint Thomas Aquinas. So before you become closed minded to things I just have this story to relate: A Graduate student comes to visit a Zen-Master to learn Zen Philosophy, however after everything the Zen-Master says the student goes on with something liken to "well we have that in the west..." after along time of this interuptions the Zen-Master begins to serve the student tea however the Zen-Master keeps pouring until the tea is flowing from the cup. The Student says "enough the cup is overflowing!" The Zen-Master Replys "Like my teachings, you must first empty your cup before you can taste my tea." Peace Out.