Operating System(OS) Wars

Discussion in 'Computer Science & Culture' started by Stryder, Feb 14, 2014.

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Which OS is better? (post version/build and any reason for your decision)

  1. Windows OS

    12 vote(s)
    30.0%
  2. Mac OS

    6 vote(s)
    15.0%
  3. Linux based OS

    17 vote(s)
    42.5%
  4. UNIX

    2 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. Other

    3 vote(s)
    7.5%
  1. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Windows Users Listen Up!

    In preparation for the roll-0ut of a new browser to replace their security riddled Internet Explorer, Microsoft has spent a great deal of effort and money on the recruitment of malware authors to systematically exploit weaknesses in the security of the Google Chrome browser.

    And they have succeeded. Formerly the most secure browser for Windows 7, Chrome has been hosting malware attacks that very closely mimic a typical Microsoft Update window in any Windows 7 computer that uses Chrome as its default browser. Over the last three weeks, my Windows 7 Acer laptop has gotten malware infections from Tivoli, Tapika, and others. After these attacks, the only available search engine on any browser will be one crafted to direct your computer to gather more malware attacks. The only reason I could do anything but watch a 3 ring malware circus play itself out on my Windows laptop was because I had a fully functional Mac to search for and download the remedies.

    MalwareBytes can quarantine and remove the malware infections and even block Chrome from installing new ones, but until and unless you change the default browser back to Internet Explorer, Chrome will continue to be complicit in simulating Microsoft Update patches which are nothing but malware.

    The idea is transparent. Microsoft wants to unseat Chrome as the best browser to use with windows because they are crafting their new roll-out browser after the way Chrome works, with most of the code to run their browser "in the cloud". My attempt to mitigate the Chrome attacks by uninstalling and reinstalling what little there is of Chrome on my local computer was not effective in slowing down the attempted malware attacks. Microsoft is the only one with a vested interest in making users believe that their new browser is more secure than Chrome.

    Don't fall for it again. Make Microsoft eat the money they poured into encouraging malware authors to sabotage Chrome. Don't install their new browser. Switch to Linux or to Mac and let Microsoft find out what its like to have 0% market share. I can think of no company more deserving of turning our backs on and for everyone to just stop buying their security hole ridden and misbegotten ideas about the way software should work.

    My Acer is switching to the Linux OS the second I have no need to support the Windows software on my wife's computer. I've purchased the last Windows OS and the last versions of Office I will ever own a license to. It's time for Microsoft to go away and never come back. Their Windows OS is a bad joke, and that joke is on the people foolish enough to buy into it.
     
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  3. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Ubuntu was the best one I've ever used,
     
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  5. psikeyhackr Valued Senior Member

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    They all suck for various reasons. I have a Linux book from 2001 that talks about the planned obsolescence of software.

    That is the real issue now. It is about upgrades for the money. Now you can't run a Ma&Pa grocery store without a 3 GHz quad-core with 16 gig of RAM.

    psik
     
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  7. Sylvester Registered Senior Member

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    Actually you can run a Ma&Pa grocery store with no computers at all.
     
  8. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    You can, in the sense that it isn't impossible in terms of physically... but it is impossible in the US in terms of keeping track of everything needed to be tracked for both profit/loss control, inventory rotation, and taxes.
     
  9. Sylvester Registered Senior Member

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    Well then up until the late ‘90s people were doing it satisfactorily save for maybe a calculator, a pen and paper…right?
     
  10. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Smaller shops yes - however, even then I would be willing to bet most used a computer for the preparation and filing of taxes (if they did it themselves) - tax laws are, simply put, stupidly complicated to navigate.
     
  11. Sylvester Registered Senior Member

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    Possibly but i recall a tax man doing the books with only a pencil and paper and this was for a fairly large business around the year 2000. He would never use a computer and i doubt he even owned one. I think it is more a matter of want than need.
     
  12. psikeyhackr Valued Senior Member

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    It's called sarcasm! It would still be ridiculous to run a Ma&Pa grocery store without a computer these days, but the ridiculous bloated software requires much more powerful computers than necessary.

    psik
     
  13. Sylvester Registered Senior Member

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    Does not matter…joke or not. Many people are old school and honestly if i were running a mom and pop i could do it with a 386 and DOS or preferably win2K for the point being that YES you get the right windows system it will serve you files like nobodies business and you can still write programs for them after all does the term “FILE SERVER” ring a bell with you?….and yes, yes, my friend was old school he put his nose in those books and sharpened his pencil you….you…you dirty psyche hacker…joking, you seem well meaning. But seriously i wold look to fast dedicated harware and software…I mean you want to crunch the numebers or surf the internet? play games, tweet, FB etc. on my dime? No way, i just wont hire you…you dirty heathen psyche “hacker”.

    That said, to me business i cant see running os x unless you are only creative realm but other than that i would choose a stable version of windows and honestly Linux or even Chromium are just basically for internet use. Hell, a determined windows user can write his own programs or just farm it out so they all have their uses.

    Chromium - based on linux, weather kernel or not, is definitely an improvement for “cloud” storage ease of use etc.
     
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  14. jadinet Registered Member

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    I've used all 3 major OS's but I always find myself going back to Mac OS
     
  15. Tomberg Registered Member

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    I like the idea of Linux the most (being that it's customizable and open-sourced, but Mac OS still is my fav as well.
     
  16. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    I loaded Linux twice. I liked it but there is a large learning curve that I didn't overcome. If I had more time to learn more about the OS, I would use it. Talking with my brother-in-law two weeks ago, he said it was better for server application than for a personal OS. It wasn't entirely clear why he thought that. He was a UNIX programmer for many years before retiring.
     
  17. blitzed Registered Member

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    This Debian Linux based OS is on most of my machines: http://crunchbangplusplus.org/

    I still use a Commodore 64, simply turn it on, good to go ^_^ Also have a Commodore Amiga 4000 for gaming, and some 1990's style web-browsing *LOL*
     
  18. Sylvester Registered Senior Member

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  19. Schneibster Registered Member

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    I chose "other" because I think different OSs are good for different things. Linux is the most flexible; it shares its UNIX parent's ultimate configurability and extensibility attributes (and is even better because you don't actually get to tweak the code in commercial UNIX implementations). MacOS is by far the easiest to use; particularly with devices (but your selection is still limited, even these days, and usually more expensive). Windows provides (IMNVHO) the best user interface; its main usability issues are with devices, not the core OS or the UI. It's also cheap (though not as cheap as Linux, but to use Linux you need more general CS knowledge than you do for either MacOS or Windows).

    I use all three without prejudice, for what I think they're best at. I have all three in my home.
     
  20. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    My favorite OS is Windows OS because most of my programs run on Windows OS. My favorite computer, however, is the Mac computer because you can install Windows OS alongside Mac OS using Boot Camp.
     
  21. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    Is Android a Linux based OS? It is based on the Linux kernel, right?
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Yes and no. Android uses the Linux kernel, which is open source. But Android doesn't include a lot of the standard libraries that Linux distributions typically use. And vice versa - Linux distributions don't generally include the Dalvik virtual machine that runs Android apps.

    The upshot of this is that Android apps won't run on Linux (although I'm sure some clever Linux afficionado will probably post after this and tell me how it can be done), and Linux applications won't run on Android.

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    PS I answered "Linux" in the poll, even though I use Windows most of the time. The question to ask about the poll question ("Which OS is better?") is: "better for what?"

    The reason I answered Linux is because philosophically I like open source, and Linux gets the job done. For certain specific applications, Linux has stuff available that you just can't get on Windows or IOS.

    But this in no way means that I think either Windows of IOS are bad OSes. In terms of ease of use, IOS is good, but it really locks you into Apple's ecosystem. Windows is more open, but it's still proprietary software at the end of the day. And Windows 10 is a very mature and usable OS.

    Everything is becoming an "app" these days, anyway, so at the end of the day the OS that we use is becoming less important for lots of stuff than it used to be.
     
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  23. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    So it sounds like the only two things Linux OS and Android OS have in common are they both use the Linux kernel and they both use some of the same standard libraries. It also sound like that if you are using Linux and you have the Dalvik virtual machine installed on your Linux computer, and you have the right tools for the job, perhaps and emulator, then you may be able to run Android apps on Linux, if that is legal to do, of course.
     

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