OPINION : New COVID-19 restrictions will be needed for anti-vaxxers

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  1. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    - https://www.theage.com.au/national/...WVjdj6waScTJy3z0Pd3FdIb3xYzr7k4j0sWYYfWIqOyDs

    " To anti-vaxxers, I have one message: our tolerance for your wilful ignorance is over. We cannot afford, morally or economically, to give any ground to those who choose not to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

    Let me be clear. I’m not advocating that we vaccinate people against their will. That would be wrong. We must ensure that the safety of our community is the number one priority. That means that participation in everyday life cannot put others at risk. If you do not want to be vaccinated against COVID-19, you ought to bear the consequences of that decision.
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    For the rest who claim they are conscientious objectors, the excuses don’t stack up anymore. There is too much at stake. I know after writing this my office will be inundated with correspondence from anti-vaccination activists demanding to be heard. For those of you who do contact me, know this. I have no interest in your alternative "facts" or your conspiracy theories.


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    Raff Ciccone is a federal Labor senator for Victoria.

    Your views are fortunately in the minority, and that’s how they will be treated. Today’s media landscape is such that you will probably receive attention for your ill-informed comments, but that doesn’t mean you are right. It just means you have been noticed."
    - https://www.theage.com.au/national/...WVjdj6waScTJy3z0Pd3FdIb3xYzr7k4j0sWYYfWIqOyDs
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    human rights for children is equal rights to health care
     
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  5. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I disagree that one should bear consequences for deciding to not be vaccinated against COVID-19.
    and actually I am an anti-vaxxer for now and am not willfully ignorant, I simply refuse to go through with it until I have all of the medical facts, rather than believing the hype. once I have said medical facts, I may wish to be vaxxed, or not, it depends on what said facts entail.
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    If you can’t distinguish between expert medical opinion and hype, there is something awry with your critical faculties.

    Do you seriously think all these crash programmes to develop a vaccine, by governments and academic institutions, are fake, or the result of irrational panic on the part of all the medical experts involved? Why do you think they are bothering?
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I am fine with that, as long as you are confined to your home until either the pandemic ends or you are vaccinated.
     
  9. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    if you are an anti vaxxer you are being willfully ignorant
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    double up
     
  12. just me Registered Senior Member

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    actually the hype I am referring to comes from every day random people.
    and no.
    governments and alleged Brainiac's are bothering for a reason not yet known to me.
     
  13. just me Registered Senior Member

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    good.
     
  14. just me Registered Senior Member

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    actually being opposed to vaccines alone does not entail willful ignorance.
     
  15. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Why not try engaging your brain and thinking why these people might be giving a vaccine so much attention? Has it really not crossed your mind that it could be because we need to vaccinate people against this virus, to allow normal life to resume?
     
  16. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    It most certainly does. There is no rational argument against vaccination whatever.
     
  17. just me Registered Senior Member

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    perhaps, perhaps not.
    actually even if this is true it does not dictate that being opposed to vaccines entails deliberate ignorance.
     
  18. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    True. It could be rank stupidity, I suppose. But I don’t believe antivaxxers are really that stupid. They are irrationally wedded to a silly idea, in the face of the evidence. That involves deliberate ignorance - ignoring the evidence that vaccines are efficacious and have saved millions of lives.
     
  19. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I see.
    please elaborate on evidence.
     
  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    What? Have you never read anything about smallpox, or polio, and how these have been virtually eradicated thanks to vaccination? How can a person decide to be an antivaxxer without bothering first to read up on these classic examples before deciding? Deliberate ignorance, perhaps?
     
  21. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    considering the other option is being stupid im trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
     
  22. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    the good news
    you vaxxers will contribute to herd immunity
    and
    thereby save many non-vaxxers
    many of whom
    cannot be vaccinated due to other underlying conditions and/or medications
    and, also
    the stubborn who, for personal reasons, some of which are religious, will not be vaccinated
    good for you vaxxers
    you do not have to save the lives of only those who agree with you
    you can save many more, even those whose choices are diametrically opposed to yours
    even is, by accident
    good for you.
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The fact that vaccines have saved millions of people and have in fact eradicated deadly diseases completely.
     

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