people suck

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Niudo, Mar 20, 2004.

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  1. yuri_sakazaki iLikeMyWomenLikeMyBaldMen ;Bald Registered Senior Member

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    That's abnormal, and unhealthily detatched.
    Yes, it is.
    No.
    Why not? You think that you have to respect him just as much as the most perfectly intelligent, decent, caring person in the world? Of course not. He's not only insane, he's a complete asshole who takes pleasure in abusing others.
    You are correct, but it doesn't mean that you can't disapprove of what he does. Nobody has a place to make others suffer, and those who override that are not worth respect. Ie: that man.
    Correct.
    You shouldn't take such pleasure in your own power, unless it was taking pleasure in helping that person. For example, you would have also had the power, and in a way a stronger power, to withold treatment from him and let him be injured or perhaps die, and that would be unhealthy. Help people, but do it for them or even yourself, not for short-lived foundationless power.
    Yep.
    Wrong.
    I couldn't disagree more, though I know there are people who may agree with you. By helping him, you aren't condoning his crime. If you had held his daughter down while he raped her, that would be bad. This was a good act. Some places to stand are destructive of others or one's self, and those are bad places. Grudges shouldn't be held against people like that, but their past does need to be kept in mind. For example, I would have helped the man in the fit, but I wouldn't let my daughter near him (if I had one). If there is no good and bad, how do you justify anything you do? Are you only doing it to make the moments pass by? I do things because I think they are right (most of the time, at times I do things that are wrong and later regret them), and take satisfaction in what I can. Without good or bad, not only is there overwhelming cruelty (because bad is easier than good, so people would gravitate to it more), but there is no real reason to live. Not to say I live to do good things, but it makes it all less pointless.
     
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  3. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense!

    How is that bad?
    Women getting raped have this annoying habit of trying to defend themselves.
    If you don't hold her down while he rapes her, you are condoning her scratching his eyes out.
    Then he'll go blind.

    What's more valuable to you? A man's eyesight or her dignity as a human being?
    If its the latter, you foul worm, how could you possibly justify your respect for another?!
    If a man goes blind, he cannot see.
    Which is a handicap so he cannot work.
    Because he cannot work, he goes on welfare.
    Becuase he'll be stuck at home being ridiculed for being on welfare he'll grow depressed.
    And being depressed he'll either kill himself or you when you try being nice when you give him a cookie.

    But the girl getting raped now has priceless gossip for her girlfriends, and she'll keep the underwear as proof.
    How dare you not help the rapist instead.
     
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  5. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Just one problem with that.
    There's such a stigma involved in rape that often the women hide it for years. They don't gossip about it.
    Although, I am sure that some do.
    Especially after 30 years when they can blame their whole failure of a life on it.
     
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  7. yuri_sakazaki iLikeMyWomenLikeMyBaldMen ;Bald Registered Senior Member

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    gendanken: You have a very good point, which would be complete and perfect, striking down all of my logic and morals, except he won't go on welfare because he's going to be in jail. ^_^ Have a nice day.
     
  8. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    yuri:
    I'm too rotten for nice days, sodomite!

    Jail *is* welfare. One point more for Gendanken....
     
  9. yuri_sakazaki iLikeMyWomenLikeMyBaldMen ;Bald Registered Senior Member

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    Remind me how I'm a sodomite?

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    Well.....well....yo mama's in jail. Point for me. And anyway, nobody gives inmates cookies, and they're monitored so they can't kill themselves (easily). Another point for me. Two points to one, watcha gonna do now?
     
  10. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Both of you are sodomites.

    Nobody is going on welfare or to jail.
    It's all speculation.
    You should hold eachother down while Uncle Sam rams you silly.
    Hopefully by then you would have something to gossip about.
     
  11. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    What do you expect for a bunch of apes? Did you ever notice that not all people do that? Perhaps everyone does to some degree. Still, there are an aweful lot of wonderful people out there too, caring for one another. I'd guess that as a percentage of the whole, the present time is likely the most peaceful time for humans on earth since the first tribes clashed eons ago.
     
  12. jennyRater Luck B me 2nite Registered Senior Member

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    so if criminals dont deserve this shelterd life at the expense of everyone else, what we going to do with them? Bring back the death penalty for evry statute crime from shoplifting up?

    I like that. despite all the badness stil in the news, perhaps it is a beter world now than it ever has been.
    Kim Stanly robinson wrote a short story which ended with the words

    "I beleive that man is good. I believe we standa tthe dawn of a century that will be more peaceful and prosperous than any in history."
     
  13. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "Still, there are an aweful lot of wonderful people out there too, caring for one another."
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    Huh?
    Where?
    Where can we find such a creature?


    "Did you ever notice that not all people do that?"
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    Good grief. Who cares? What's your point?
     
  14. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "so if criminals dont deserve this shelterd life at the expense of everyone else, what we going to do with them?"
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    What sheltered life? Do you have a life?


    "I believe we standa tthe dawn of a century that will be more peaceful and prosperous than any in history."
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    I believe that this changes nothing.
     
  15. jennyRater Luck B me 2nite Registered Senior Member

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    I mean that they get free housing + food, laundry, rec rooms, librarys, cinemas etc all in their prison - more than a lot of non-criminals get, like tramps or even single moms. Often inmates dont have to work for it much, as they sometimes spend most of the day in their cells (wether or not they want to).
    Yes I have a life - not always exellent, but I canh ave a good time. Can you ?

    Beter for people as individuals to suck if the world overall is peaceful + prosperous - than for the world to be violent and sick + starving, and people still sucking!
     
  16. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "I mean that they get free housing + food, laundry, rec rooms, librarys, cinemas etc all in their prison - more than a lot of non-criminals get, like tramps or even single moms. Often inmates dont have to work for it much, as they sometimes spend most of the day in their cells (wether or not they want to)."
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    That's the biggest joke on the planet.
    Woops I forgot. You must be talking about the prison on planet fairyland.
     
  17. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Sweden, Norway, Denmark... list goes on.
    Prison tourism was very popular among Russians some years ago, but now they are immediately returned.
     
  18. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Cool Skill:
    Barring tools and fingers, I can't sodomize.

    Think about it.
    Uh-oh.

    I thought it was you that Uncle Sam was ramming silly.

    Yuri Sakazaki:
    Because I said so!
    *grin*
    I'm going to scalp you line by line, oh my brother.

    Cookies is what they call an STD in, uh, Sing Sing.
    And everybody knows that guards use the term 'we monitor our prisoners with round the clock surveillance" in place of "we're really scouting for free porn".

    There's a vid somewhere of Gary Coleman getting a new asshole.....

    Muhahahhahhahahaha

    Jennryater:
    Wouldn't you rather see them all killed?
    All that tax money used to keep them would be used to pay the Bush twins’ tuitions instead.
    Doesn’t that make you feel productive?
     
  19. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "I thought it was you that Uncle Sam was ramming silly."
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    Think again.
    You pay taxes.
    Taxes pay me.
    Who's getting rammed?
     
  20. jennyRater Luck B me 2nite Registered Senior Member

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    So what prisons are you thinking of? 3rd world dungeons with 30 in 1 room.. at least in American prisons theres some kind of privacy at night.
     
  21. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    American prisoners are treated like crap, and live under inhumane living conditions. Hopefully next time you go to prison, you will know how good it it really is. As for now, I suggest you stop watching movies because obviously you are incapable of handling their adverse effects.
     
  22. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    What the hell are you talking about?

    Ever seen Karachi 'police' or been handled by Mexican prison 'guards'?

    If you put your average American prisoner next to a Pakistani cop, the cop looks like a starving Ethiope.

    America is the first place I ever saw a homeless person and years later after being acquainted with the legal system, I couldn't believe that these people would rather stay on the streets in place of kiling someone in order to be thrown in jail.

    Aren't you That Guy That Really Really Hates America?
    That's my point.

    At any rate, your tax money pays my light and gas bills.
    Mine pays yours.
    So?

    Come the day I'm finally instituionalized, guess who'll be paying for my bensodizapines (sp?)?
     
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  23. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "Ever seen Karachi 'police' or been handled by Mexican prison 'guards'?"
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    Ever burnt in hell?
    Irrelevant. What they do in Karachi, Mexico, and hell does not change the status of American prison.


    I couldn't believe that these people would rather stay on the streets in place of kiling someone in order to be thrown in jail.
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    Easy to say from the outside. I see movies do have a huge influence on the braindead.
     
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