personality theory based on archetypes

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  1. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    Well you’re wrong about that cus since we last spoke I’ve had a group home supervisor with a bachelors in psychology helping me with the test with the validity testing idea

    And an office counselor who showed my work to Udc and they are responsible for the test being smaller and the number sequence being changed

    So people are taking it seriously
     
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  3. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    I have clearly been using people with more school Than me to get other people interested over the years

    I have no problem admitting that

    And it started with [personally identifying information deleted] the child shrink and that led to [personally identifying information deleted] the office counselor which led to Udc which led to [personally identifying information deleted] the group home supervisor which has led to some others

    People have accused me of just piggyback on others snd being too lazy to do the work myself but I’ve gottten results
     
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  5. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    And if I’m honest I can Admit I’m not disciplined enough at this point to go back to school

    But so what getting results is getting results these guys have gotten my foot in the door and that’s what counts
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    how did it go ?

    what country is "here" ?

    "results" does not prove it is a good system to be applied to anything
    "results" also does not mean you are not "piggy backing"

    you can get results by hitting someone with a stick
    "results" is a cause & effect concept of "effect"

    in my own work i identified 14 different personality archetypes with a possible 2 to 4 more

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    and also please note
    while i am happy to discuss some aspects of my own study into psychology
    i am not about to divulge things
    but i am happy to discuss yours and maybe if i can help by highlighting something or helping you to look at something from a different perspective.


    and also please note
    pedophiles, sadists, human slave traders, cult members and cult leaders will be reading this
    so keep that in mind
    THAT is the nature of public discussion access, ANYONE and everyone has access to it
    and as with many things
    those whom have more determination are often those with worst intent to use what ever it is.
    guns bombs soldiers slaves technology etc

    point & example comments like this raise red flags


    pediatric & human-developmental psychology should have no monetary drive or purpose
    merchandising it into a sales packet is to turn the knowledge into pedophile tools

    what you "Want" or "Don't want" is completely irrelevant to if, how, when & why other people will & may use what ever you have handed them or given them access to, to exploit, enslave brain wash or abuse others.
    be that listed or labelled under any heading of capitalism, socialism or religion or freedom of information or free speech or charitable gestures.

    it all becomes mute when YOU are the one who has enabled that person to be killed, enslaved sexual abused or tortured or scammed.

    it IS your fault.



     
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  8. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    I was a paraprofessional for 12 years in DCPS

    Dc public schools the Washington DC public school system

    I retired few years ago

    I never got any traction with DCPS it’s too much red tape to test things on students

    But as far as getting colleges interested it’s been better and independent therapists counselors outside of DCPS
     
  9. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    It’s a public school system so even if you have connections the amount of red tape you’re having to go through to get permission to do anything is ridiculous everything has to be run by parents teachers countless administrators

    The best way for my work was colleges independent counselors and shrinks and even private schools they would at least give me an audience
     
  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    It reconfigures some archetypes and some of the types found on the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
    which edition ?

    i probably should but i have not read them all

    a good excuse has always trumped a good reason for preventative culture change
    such is the reducing element of human biological drives

    you say
    why 3 ?
    humans are far more complex than 3
    & i have not read anything on the nature of 3 mathematics to suggest any core attribute
    other than religion and conceptual materialist associations from the individuation process
    which i would expect you to be well past at this point of the discussion.

    please explain your reasoning and formation of "3 symbols"
    deriving the result

    i shall stop posting at this point to give you a chance to catch up to my posting of questions.

    ?
     
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  11. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    The archetypes are what make it interesting and different

    It’s a pseudoscience which is why I assume that guy Dave has been following me around in here being a hater and trash talker

    Outside of that it’s just a laundry list of personality disorders/ mental health stuff typical shrinks deal with on a daily basis

    If you take away the archetypes it’s just the dsm or a narrowed down version of the dsm
     
  12. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    That isn’t to say I’m a fraud I still had to be instructed on how to do reliability testing by the child shrink


    There was a scientific way of coming up with the reliability testing
     
  13. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    It’s not hard to explain

    There are just certain archetypes or archetypes combinations that just line up with certain personality disorders

    They just the archetypes spell out certain disorders very clearly
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    piggy backing
    versus
    being pre determined to a set range of outcomes
    like tying one of your feet to a wheel then saying no one can run faster than the speed of the wheel

    this reads a bit like dogma
    while i ignore what looks like obvious christian religion over tones in your base thinking model

    dominant
    versus influential
    versus
    labels to make life easier for others at the patients expense
    is your terminology flawed here or are you being lazy ?

    dominant influences are not always larger in symbology
    "most" is a subjective term
    you need clinical terms
    placing the word "most" in is like placing a post-it-note on your forehead saying "i am an idiot"

    i think your being lazy
    you simply CAN NOT be lazy for science
    it turns your car around and drives you in the opposite direction.

    ok
    so that is a fairly large claim inside a set of versed justifiers

    please list prominent emotional conditions beside non definitive disorders so i can clearly see you have not attached them to disorders to emotionalise a disorder.
    (a common bi-polar disorder type of thinking)

    if you are bi-polar
    then you MUST learn to understand it so it helps you as much as it hinders you.
    being on the spectrum and then giving it license is ok for creativity
    but allowing it to hammer your science outcomes to make things easier for you is probably a sign your being pushed or pushing too hard when you need to be thinking longer on the subject.

    further reading which i wont highlight
    Soo...
    i am reading your kumbaya script

    why do i want warm fuzys ? what are you selling ?
    you let your desire for outcomes cloud your science
    natural
    but critically influential
    and here-in-lies the question around your religious beliefs ....
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    ("histrionic personality disorder " you mean schizophrenia? i notice you have not mentioned it, i wonder why)
    and yet you define gender to
    "the wise old man"
    ...
    creates more questions than it answers
    refer back around to above question about your personal religious beliefs

    this seems like a big leap/statement
    what age range are you referring to ?

    10 year old child ?
    girl or boy ?



    so just to make sure we are 100% on the same page
    8 year old boy
    10 year old girl
    1 is a sociopath ?
    1 is a narcissist ?

    or is that you holding up flash cards making labels building some type of maslovs hierarchy of personality
    please explain further how these terms relate to an
    8 year old boy
    and an 8 year old girl

    you can assign them both to be living in mixed co-ed familys and co-ed schools at the same school
    both starting sex ed
    if that makes it easier

    ...
     
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  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I've got some sense of the topic from the last few posts

    Not reinventing the wheel, just adding a little more decoration

    Since he has retired I would suggest give brain a rest from what you have been working on, with little results it seems, and strike out to attempt something else

    Keep going as you are can make you a stereotype bitter old man

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  16. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    I’m not bipolar I’m actually an Entp

    Which is intuitive extrovert aka high functioning narcissism

    Those types are smart enough to read the room and master things quickly but charming enough to rely on and use others to compensate for weaknesses

    Some people over the years have assumed I’m bipolar

    I do get very angry when I don’t get what I want but that’s still not enough to goby.

    My personal life definitely points to narcissism
     
  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    are you drawing the wagons in a circle ?
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    i understand the subject may be quite difficult for you(and most others)
    this is science it IS hard !

    it will also be guaranteed to have triggers in it

    but we are discussing science
    not warm fuzys(im not anti warm fuzys)

    attempted coercion of the subject type and content ...

    assigning the worst possible group label and then waiving it as a threat
    seeking group compliance
    to control and divert the subject

    ...
    pandering to fragile egos looking for stroking ?


    keeping in mind the "air" of American culture dogma to avoid at all costs any discussion around religious thought paradigms of indoctrination and personality construction through nurture is as obvious as a red flag to a raging bull

    who would argue personality is not influenced by religious culture in nurture ?

    if we don't lift the hood
    we never get to look at the engine
    and its all about the engine

    this is science it IS hard !
     
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  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Self diagnosis as a professional in the field?

    OR

    Professional diagnosis from a professional in the field?

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  19. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i read that as self diagnosis
    along with the "i am not bi-polar"
    i read both as being self diagnosis

    also both aligned with the leading premise of ideological frame work of the model proposed
    so it is indeed slightly codified(as one would expect in any high functioning state)

    i am fascinated by the subject
    i rarely discuss it because of the massive amount of damage it can do to people by scammers & pedophiles
     
  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I'm a little lost

    I was referring to Kimani (not yourself)

    He appears to have spent what 8 years on some classification system (reinventing the wheel, just adding a little more) decoration with very little progress

    Methinks move on

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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ok
    my mistake
    assuming it is not some type of new age christian scam self development envangelical derived thought process
    i am interested in thier ideas around the personality achitypes for my own study

    additionally and equally peoples perceptions of these things and how they translate them to complex thoughts of human thought

    its one of my interests

    regardless of the leaning of religion
    im interested
    regardless of them re inventing the wheel
    im curious how they re invent it

    the self admission of naval gazing intellect is not missed on me, by them.
    but thats as christian as you get "i have sinned" etc etc

    culture & how that influences personality & thinking is quite often an almost aromatic fragrance to archetype concept

    american liberal educationalists tend to be a certain type of person
    with a collection of specified concepts and beliefs and values
    depending on what type of school(religion) they work for

    unfortunately the sense of do no harm to be sued is an overt hobbling concept around many frames of advanced pediatric psychology in the working environment



    i have no doubt that if your system has been designed around existing models then it will be translatable to existing models
    as you say
    copying concepts in the work place to give you better outcomes for your existing models and tools
    is a better outcome
    better outcomes become better simply by being a different way to do the same thing with children
    more so in an ever growing environment of over saturation of senses while reducing direct cognitive control direction & manipulation(false knowledge)
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    & reverse engineering the DSM back to try and manipulate those minds whom wrote it
    is not ideal in a less than ideal world

    turning things into sales products ...
    no money no food no life
    i get it

    but would you sell nuclear biological & chemicals weapons at any price to anyone ?

    many would
    and claim it was just the once
    and say they cant be held accountable for how a terrorist uses what they sell them
     
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