planets orbit like their stars vibrate ?

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by nebel, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. river

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    Go on .
     
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  3. nebel

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    I hope so, for another decade anyway. Perhaps by then we will be able to predict exo planet's orbits by their star's pulsations. or/and vice versa.
    sun dance to the same rhythm.
     
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  5. river

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    Cosmic Fluid . We shall see .
     
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  7. nebel

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    read the New Scientist article, and start your own topic/ thread on the subject. subject yourself to objective observations.
     
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    ETH Zurich. "Swimming upstream on sound waves." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 19 February 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/02/210219111456.htm

    so here is one possibility of sound waves, pressure, resonances causing annular back ups, standing waves, where we today have planets.
    Sun's bumpy magnetic field. 5 minute and 160 minute left over pulsations. and:

    We have spotted two planets orbiting a backwards-spinning star

    SPACE 15 February 2021
    By Krista Charles
    Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/articl...ting-a-backwards-spinning-star/#ixzz6myvI1vvy

    planetary orbit distances independent of rotation, perhaps from interference patterns of multiple star systems.
     
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  9. river

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    Highlighted , then there is a medium and this medium is fluidic . And Three Dimensional .

    Last statement ;

    Could very well be . And it Woundn't Surprise me , if it were found to be True .

    In addition ; Sound Waves Can't Exist in a Vacuum . ( Can't Propagate Outward Into Space From the Source or Any Space Really )
     
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  10. nebel

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    True, atmospheric sound needs a fluid like our gas mixture to have pressure periodic variations
    , but such higher density waves exist in the interplanetary, stellar vacuum, like in the arms of galaxies, standing density waves., and among free particles.

    NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center. "Comet makes a pit stop near Jupiter's asteroids." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 25 February 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/02/210225143754.htm>.

    interesting indication, that kind of a standing wave condition exists on the orbit of Jupiter, 5,2 AU, 2600 light seconds in radius, holding the 3 lagrange points 3,4. and 5,
    attracting and holding matter in the 8st quasi circular well from the sun.
     
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    Any sound , vibration needs a medium . And that medium allows the vibration to expand .
     
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  12. nebel

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    The medium that allows gravitational waves to spread is space itself. space dimensions are not a medium like a solid substance or a fluid. Waves ca exist in free particles, clouds too.
    density waves, traveling and interfering, creating standing waves.
    Ahead of every orbiting body there exist equi distant to it's distance from the sun an area where matter collects (see quite above). like a trough in spacetime. for Jupiter: wave length: ~ 43 light seconds.
    Troughs in spacetime are self perpetuating, getting deeper with accumulating matter. standing .
     
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    Nonsense .

    Space is not a medium . Space is about Room , Volume .
     
  14. nebel

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    but mass, through gravity will directly warp, tension spacetime , and waves (caused by massive movements), will travel through it, leaving measurable effects.
    no other additional medium inside space for that is needed.
    if such waves interfere, it will have standing, outstanding effects.
    The present theory proposes that such standing wave patterns lead to the unique planetary orbit spacings.
    like in chladni patterns, you can not see the waves, but it is apparent where the nodes are, the mass accumulates.
     
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    Gravity Waves move away from the source . Spacetime is irrelevant . Spacetime is a mathematical consequence of the physical movements . To the objects themselves they just move on the basis of themselves and the environment inwhich they are in . The Physical Objects , Natural Physical Objects , as in the Periodic Table , are not controlled by mathematics in any of its form(s) .
     
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  16. river

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    Thanks

    river
     
  17. river

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    But have we found the physical evidence , yet ?

    Do we have the technology to map the solar system in 3D , 360° in all energy forms . In all wave lengths .
     
  18. nebel

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    Even if we had the picture, it would be overwhelming. concentrate on one item at the time, Here. Stars pulse, in luminosity, magnetically, gravitationally. pPanets orbit in eliptical inclined orbits,
    Orbits that have distinct spacing patterns.
    The present alternative theory suggests, that that all these are correlated. In our solar/ planetary system by a 5 minute /160 minute solar frequency, that when translated to wavrlength through the speed of light "c", gives the minimum .3 AU (300 light seconds) Mercury to Venus to Earth) orbit diameter spacings, and the 9.6 AU, 160 light seconds orbit diameter difference, Uranus to Neptune to Pluto)
    The planets follow a resonance pattern too, doubling in orbit spacings from Venus to Uranus, and Pluto. (skipping neptune) 6 octaves if it were the ringing of the rings
    Whether this is the case, or whether we can deduce stellar pulses in other systems, by their orbit measurements remains to be seen. not hard facts yet,
    still a fluid situation.
     
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    Here are two stories, from young and collapsed stars, with opposing inflows and outflows, magnetism, that would create interference standing waves. potentially corralling
    mater.

    NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center. "Hubble shows torrential outflows from infant stars may not stop them from growing." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 18 March 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210318113632.htm>.

    National Radio Astronomy Observatory. "New images reveal magnetic structures near supermassive black hole: Work gives clues about how powerful jets are driven." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 24 March 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210324113356.htm>.
     
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    Not gravity . But magnetic fields .

    I have yet to see anything of , in our globular cluster (our galactic centre ) , evidence of any black hole . Where is this blackness ?
     
  21. river

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    Plasmas , Cosmic Plasmas .

    These Jets are the balancing of energy within the galaxy its self . Notice that these jets come from below and above the galactic plane .

    Black Holes are not balanced . Because they are unidirectional , because gravity is unidirectional . If black holes were true , then it would be a single jet magnetic ejection . This is clearly not the case .
     
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    BH might be dimensionless, and can at the outset, be the result of a contracting star, or many. The picture I put up was to show that there is structure, density waves associated with these magnetic fields around with such masses.

    The second link dealt with the opposing flows of infalling mass onto a protostar. and the outgoing radiation, the wind that clears the area of much debris.
    These opposing flows can, as happens in our atmosphere, create standing wave patterns, even rogue waves.
     
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    Highlighted , you realize this makes no sense , nebel . We should All realize this . Any reference to any thing as being " dimensionless " is non-senscical .
     
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