planets orbit like their stars vibrate ?

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  1. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    Beer,
    I calculated that the Moon precession data due to the Earth's gravitational waves is 5500" per century.
    Using the new gravitational equation, it is very easy to calculate the orbital precession of the planet caused by gravitational waves. If you need help, you can contact me at any time.
     
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  3. nebel

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    ingenious. On a more evident level, the moon creates a "standing wave" by it's gravity, in which the Earth rotates, rising the tides between inches on land and meters at sea.

    Every system has a 'eigenschwingung" natural harmonic vibration, and if the Sun and planets would be out of sync, the solar system would not have been stable enough to give us time to evolve. so:
    a thumbs up for good vibes.
     
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  5. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    I can ask GR scholars a few questions:
    1. How are gravitational waves caused?

    2. Will the revolution of the sun cause gravitational waves?

    3. Will gravitational waves affect the surrounding gravity?

    4. Does gravitational wave have Doppler effect?

    5. Is the density of gravitational waves under the Doppler effect uneven?

    6. If all of the above are yes, then my gravitational wave model is clear and reasonable. Do you agree with this view?

    My theory is simple, easy to understand, and it is correct in the calculation of planetary orbits.
    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-384421/v1
     
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  7. nebel

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    If you take pride in your work, You might want to start your own thread in the Science section. Established Mainstream "scholars" are likely to avoid the pseudo science section, except to have some cheap fun.
     
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  8. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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  9. nebel

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    TY: may be you noticed, this thread is about the relationships between the Eigenschwingung of a system and the orbit diameters differences of the planets. A minimum value of 300 light seconds, maximum 160 light minutes, 9.6 AU. a geometric series, in octaves.
    by comparison, precession deals in micro numbers. fine art.
     
  10. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, by comparison, precession deals in micro numbers.
    But precession provides a way for us to study gravity, study gravitational waves, and study gravitational fields.

    You can download the program I uploaded.
    The algorithm of the new version has not changed, but the human-computer interaction will be clearer.
    Using this program, it is easy to see the planet’s precession, thereby observing the influence of gravitational waves on gravity
     

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  11. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    Beer,
    Can you tell me some of your thoughts after reading my paper? Maybe you can give me some good suggestions.
    Thanks.
     
  12. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    Only waiting for astronomical observations, Venus precession 8.6" pk 240", which will determine the future of GR.
     
  13. nebel

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    The OP's observations were confirmed , years ago, that one of the solar pulsations, the 5 minute vibes, when seen as wavelength of "c" the speed of light, gravity change, corresponds to the
    .3 AU minimal planetary orbit diameter distance, ! (2AU radii = 1000 light seconds. )

    It follows a geometric series, doubling from Venus out to Uranus, and then, after 5 doublings going out, settles at 9.6 AU, the Uranus to Neptune to Pluto distance. with 4% accuracy.

    5 doublings of "c" wavelength in the solar system. Same as 5 octaves on the keyboard, if you like music. ,
     
  14. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    I don't understand this passage too much, but what I want to say is that scientific theories come from scientific observations, and scientific observations verify scientific theories.
     
  15. nebel

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    true, a correlation between the solar pulsations, and the wavelength at which they propagate was observed, and it matches the 300 light second interval between orbit diameters and their multiples.
    a sure sign of a wave system, standing waves like in a Chladni plate. stable long enough forus to evolve and discover it. now,
    will we see this in other star/exoplanetary systems, or is our situation unique?
     
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  16. TonyYuan Gravitational Fields and Gravitational Waves Registered Senior Member

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    We must can see this in other star/exoplanetary systems, our situation is not unique. This is the universal law of physics.
     
  17. nebel

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    On page 1 were analyzed orbit spacings of exoplanets HP2 and Trappist. of course nature's universal laws apply there too. but
    can you point to any system discovered so far that has our geometric series, doubling with distance pattern, ? *** or
    the curious emergence of the number 10 in it's position and prevalence of measurements? 10, in the 4,7,10 earth , 16 , 28, 52, 100 (saturn), 196. --- 388, pluto
    10 digits, 10 meter/sec x sec surface acceleration, 10 meter water height atmospheric pressure, 1000 light second orbit diameter, 1/10 ooo of "c" orbital velocity
    *** some exoplanet detection techniques favour big close companions.

    perhaps life requires special kind of conditions, shown in these numbers, that are only "the tip of the iceberg" of underlying facts. good vibes of stars and orbits included.
     
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    What does this all mean in the end ?

    Of course life needs certain conditions in order to Manifest . Life can not exist just anywhere , Life can not exist suspended in empty space .

    Life is everywhere , where it can , Life manifests , And Evolves.

    Life is an energy form of its own . It uses the periodic table of elements to exract energy , to live , if not from the Sun energy .
     
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  19. nebel

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    You are staying into the religion/ philosophy section. make your life meaningful. Gregory, Tietz, Bode, others that have worked with these resonance numbers for ~ 400 years, have by doing so, retraced the steps of a creat/or/rice, saying: I see your works. --- Existence certainly has meaning in itself; so: make good use of it. if you can communicate by frequencies, that have their origin locally by what /and how he sun and planets formed, their particular resonances, good vibes.

    all that is suggested in this thread, is , that the conditions here are related to stellar/ planet resonances. the Trappist system of page one have at least the temperature conditions, but that does not mean there is life there. There are places on earth, where you have all the elements assembled, but no life. see Louis Pasteur.

    and of course it has to have time to do it in, as pointed out in the "ALMA" thread ~ 10 lines below. about energy and time, uncreated. yet
    There are even theories of "virtual" frequencies in pre-Big Bang timespace and energytime.
     
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  20. nebel

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    In this thread is proposed a wave mechanism for the spacing in the forming of planetary orbits. now,
    steady waves have even been detected in the in the interstellar plasma:

    Cornell University. "In the emptiness of space, Voyager I detects plasma 'hum'." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 10 May 2021. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/05/210510113603.htm>.

    "--instruments have detected the constant drone of interstellar gas (plasma waves), according to Cornell University-led research published in Nature Astronomy. ----" (bold added)

    just speculating, but a hum, constant frequency , can be generated by the steady movement of the instrument through standing [density] waves. ---and--
     
  21. river

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    Last statement , I would like to think that this was accounted for .
     
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