Post-Diluvian Nephilim?

Discussion in 'Comparative Religion' started by one_raven, Mar 27, 2016.

  1. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    If God killed off everyone but Noah's family and the seven pairs of all animals in the flood, how did the Nephilim come back later (in Isaiah, for example)?
     
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  3. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Different people - same name?
     
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  5. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    They're probably from the same tribe of people that Adam & Eve's children's partners came from.
     
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  7. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    They hid out on top of an even taller mountain. So did the hippos and lamas Noah never heard of.
     
  8. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    In Jewish folklore, aren't they semidivine beings? So they're presumably hardier and more survivable than man, and just tough through the flood. They're demigods, not exactly mortal. It's like all the various monsters in Greek myth--they all survive the flood of Deucalion because they're not merely mortal.
     
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  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    It all depends how big was the world then We don't know if Europa and America Asia and Oceania was in their frame world.
     
  10. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think that we should think of Genesis as actual history. It's a recounting of ancient Hebrew myth, or at least the version of ancient Hebrew myth that the writers and the later redactors of the texts favored.

    We shouldn't even expect the ancient Hebrew scriptures to be entirely consistent, since they seemingly incorporate many elements absorbed from the preexisting mythology of the people around them. The flood itself seems to be an example of that. The 'nephilim' are very likely another.

    So I don't think that it's very useful or enlightening to invent all kinds of fanciful scenarios at this late date in hopes of harmonizing all of it into one consistent whole. It probably wasn't all that consistent to begin with, due to its being derived at different times from different sources.
     
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  11. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    It's recounting an ancient Mesopotamian myth, probably from Ur, that's way older than any Hebrews. They just picked it up in their herding migrations and wrote it down much later, after they settled down to farming.
    Incidentally, every culture that was established alongside rivers - which is to say, almost every culture in the world - has a flood story. Guess why!
     
  12. PaulJames Banned Banned

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    Aren't they green...?
     
  13. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I am not sure that you should all story that are in Genesis as a myth. I will agree that Some event are written years later when writing was learned . Even in some present cultures events are passed down to the children and grandchildren by the parents specially in the less developed culture. So I think it is wring to brush out all that is written in Genesis.
     
  14. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Of all of the books of the bible, genesis is obviously the most likely to be 100% myth. Just because it is a myth it does not mean there is nothing to be learned from it. The purpose of fables and myths is to teach a lesson or principle.
     
  15. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Regardless whether any of it is "true" it was written for a reason. The reasons behind sacred texts are endlessly fascinating to me.
     
  16. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    It's a mistake to think of "the Nephilim" as a particular group. More likely the term is generic and applies to different groups of "giants" or "great men" at different times.
     

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