Pro-Immigration Marches

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  1. sandy Banned Banned

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    Lazy people don't want to work. They have an entitlement mentality. Some like to collect welfare/foodstamps/ medical care off hard-working American citizens.

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  3. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    samcdkey

    Yes sam point a finger, and then look at your precious India, and you preach to the world about their problems, and laws?


    http://www.senser.com/5-21.htm

    Exploding Child Labor Myths: an Indian's Insights

    Kailash Satyarthi, a striking figure in a white robe, was in Washington earlier this month. Between appointments at the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, he talked to and with a small group of us on May 14. I was real glad to see him again and to find him still exuding the charisma and the wisdom that impressed me when I first met him some years ago.

    From personally witnessing the plight of boys and girls victimized by bonded labor and other harsh forms of exploitation, Satyarthi is unexcelled in being able to explode myths about child labor, including some repeated by distinguished academics and international organizations. He is especially good at debunking the facile rationale that "poverty causes child labor." Not so, he says. "Exploitation of poverty causes child labor."

    The MEA's children
    The reason why India's factory floors and sundry sweat-shops are not teeming ... UNICEF found in 1995 that "economic exploitation of children in India is ...
    http://www.ashanet.org/library/articles/frontline.199801.html

    Globalisation - the human cost
    In North India, children hand stitching footballs for Mitre receive 14 ... Anton Foek, Sweatshop Barbie: Exploitation of Third World World Labour, ...
    http://home.clara.net/heureka/gaia/global02.htm

    9713—Where'd You Get That Outfit?—4/1/97
    I'm aware of exploitation of immigrant workers, in some of the sweat shops in ... to children in India in glass factories working in incredibly dangerous ...
    http://www.commongroundradio.org/shows/97/9713.html

    Global March Against Child Labour - From Exploitation to Education
    India: Child labour at Rohini courts complex; inquiry ordered ... In one sweatshop, children were finishing a summer dress, now on sale for £16.99 in 250 ...
    http://www.globalmarch.org/clns/clns-april-2007-details.php

    IHS Child Slave Labor News :: Reasons for Child Slave Labor
    BBC World Service reported the balls in the world rugby champion ship competition was made by hand by underpaid Pakistani children in sweat shops. ...
    http://ihscslnews.org/view_article.php?id=142
     
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  5. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    Are they your only options?
     
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  7. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    What does India have to do with illegal immigration in the US? Or sweatshops owned by American corporations(although I think outsourcing and downsizing of factories are large contributers to the unemployment). Anyway, what are we doing right now to fix the immigration problems? Why don't we set up indentured servitude or something. Also, whoever said illegal aliens get paid a lot is fucking crazy. Illegals are the only people who have it bad in America.
     
  8. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Bells

    I have a problem with any illegal immigrant, I don't care were they come from, it is just as stated by sandy,

    They are not screened for health problems, and they are reintroducing diseases back into this country that we wiped out generations ago, if this isn't a problem in your opinion, I hope the wheel comes for you.
    And it isn't just the Health Problems, how about the criminal one, a lot of the Illegal are fleeing the justice systems of their own countries, and they don't stop their criminal activity just because they cross the border, remember they are criminals already, and don't give me the political asylum tears, if they went through the legal immigration, and all they have to do is report at immigration entry, the government would then be able help protect them in this country, and Keep them from being exploited.
     
  9. sandy Banned Banned

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    Almost everyday I read another sickening report of criminal aliens killing Americans. Many have been drunk drivers with rap sheets as long as your arm. Yesterday I was almost hit in an intersection when a Mexican-looking guy driving a red pickup truck blew through the red light at about 60 mph.

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  10. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    But of course it's okay when American criminals kill Americans?
    And an American-looking guy has never done this?
     
  11. sandy Banned Banned

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    No. It's never ok for any AMERICAN citizen to kill another AMERICAN citizen (except while enforcing the death penalty or defending themselves.)

    It just overburdens our already over-filled courts when we now have 20 million+ criminal aliens in the mix.

    And no. An "American-looking" guy never tried to run me over in an intersection.
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Oniw17

    Because of the greed of many politicians, nothing is allowed to be done, and there are Democrats, and Republicans who fit this, from those who want the votes (Democrats)and the American working people to pay for the medical care, suffer the reintroduction of diseases wiped out generations ago, suffer under the crime problems brought to this country, the cost of incarceration of illegal who murder, rape, deal drugs, steal, and kill us on the roads of America, and the depression of wages, by the ability to employ illegal, Because they want the U.S. to pay for their sense of guilt, they don't pay for this out of their own pockets if you notice, to RINOs, (Republicans In Name Only)who want the cheep labor, We aren't doing a thing, Now as a Conservative, what we need to do is enforce the Laws, immigration to drug, murder, labor, and any other on the books, go back to the Constitution as the founding Law of the Land, and suffer the pain of doing something to solve the problem.
    What I see happening, if we do this is that the taxes go down, we aren't supporting illegal in the welfare system, more money to take care of our own citizens, cost of our prisons go down and we need less of them, and reduce the violent criminals who prey on our innocent victims, the health care system cost would be reduced, because we aren't treating illegal who in the end don't pay for the treatment,, wages go up, because the market has a new parodying, no under the table pay,
    Also, whoever said illegal aliens get paid a lot is fucking crazy. Illegal are the only people who have it bad in America.

    Oniw17
    And exactly what is indentured servitude? just another name for slavery, are you really in favor of turning all of the illegal into slaves? I think you need to re-think this idea.

    Oniw17

    How old are you? and you think it is only illegal that struggle for their daily lives? were do you live? you need to get out more, visit a few ghettos, the rural Appalachian counties in the south, the southern border were the brunt of the illegal cross, and in doing so, have destroyed the farms and ranches that are along the borders, forcing them into poverty, dam I forget that you are only 16, you need to look, and see what you are looking at.
     
  13. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Oniw17

    sam, kettle calling pot black.

    The fact that sam when she needed her education, went to the best, America, to acquire it, and then does nothing but condemn a country that made it possible to achieve her needs. Even at that what has she done with that education? She is Moslem, and they don't take well to their women doing anything outside the home unless closely supervised by their men, which begs the question of sam being on the web?
    The fact that sam wants the U.S. to pay for everything that is wrong around the world, and the fact is that the U.S. isn't responsible for all of those problems, it is just that sam want our money, you notice that she doesn't use her own, it is a genetic failure in the liberal, they always have these grand schemes, but then were do they go for the money, their own pockets? no, they go after yours, they take your money, through taxes and sure charges, and them brag on how they did something out standing.
    Now it would really be out standing if they used their own money, not ours.
    And for the last reason, she failed to answer the question ask, she just changed the subject to a attack on the U.S. and what she perceives as its failures, so in fairness should we not be able to look at the failures of her India in living up to the standards that she demands?
     
  14. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't that a bit inefficient? Aren't there a lot of illegal immigrants here?

    A temporary, conditional slavery. I support this method to replace prison sentences aswell. It won't happen, I know....
    Not the children.
    I don't know anything about farms or ranches, but I know that those people can get help . With 8 kids at the moment, my mom lives fine off a welfare check and food stamps, and we have HBO + the internet. Granted, I do work from time to time, but I usually save my money unless my mom asks me for some. Living in America is easy. You can support 8 kids by not doing anything.
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Oniw17

    No, painful yes, but in the end it will result in a far more efficient system.

    Temporary conditions tend to become permanent, and slavery is slavery no matter how you define it

    And how do you stop this? what do they have to look forward to as they grow up? when they come of age, being a indentured slave? great life, would you live so? would you wish to grow up with that to look forward to?


    And that is your problem, you don't know,

    Your Mom at this time has 8 children, and lives fine? she plans for more? paid for by my money, paid for by my dollars, and you live just fine, you don't have very high aspirations, Hell I just became able to afford cable, let alone any HBO, and the cable I have is the minim just so I have internet access, Don't get me wrong, I do live a decent life, I'm not rich, but I'm not poor, I worked my ass off to get were I am today, but I have and make to much to qualify for any of the forms of welfare.
    You know that they can get help? How about you take a trip outside you own little protected world that I am forced to support, and smell the coffee, get a little world education, experience, knowledge of the real world, and then maybe you might know what you are talking about.
     
  16. miharu_br Sejamos idiotas! Registered Senior Member

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    hey, I've edited my text for better comprehension. take a look:

    I think you've got it now.
     
  17. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    miharu_br


    Not my quote, it belongs to Oniw17


    Now what is your point?
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah why can't they get used to working for next to nothing without health insurance and food stamps to overcome their food insecurity, I'll never know. Good thing they work for minimum wage or less otherwise we'd soon see the back of them.:bugeye:
     
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  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Good thing gun control means us fat ass stoopid Americans can use them immigrants fro tragte prectise

    http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2003/05/22/vigilante/index.html

    That'll larn them basturds. *spit*
     
  20. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Either your comprehension skills or your expositional powers are lacking. It's apparently gone from "jumping a red light" to "trying to run you over". The question was about jumping a red light...
     
  21. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    So why hasn't it happened yet?
    Less people would want to come here illegally then?
    No, why is this allowed?
     
  22. miharu_br Sejamos idiotas! Registered Senior Member

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    they're not the only people who have it bad. Everyone that is suffering with bad conditions go into this conception, IMO. OK, nonsense. Whatever.
     
  23. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    miharu_br

    It is a condition of living, being alive, yes their are many who have it bad, and what make them great, and to be admired, is how they deal with it, do they do it with dignity and honor, or do they sell their honor, become criminals, and live off the work of others, if the illegal came legally they would have more pay, and legal protections from our laws against those that would exploited them.

    So if they don't want to cure the problem come out of the shadows, and do things legally, then they have to endure.
     

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