Profanity why?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Xelasnave.1947, Apr 21, 2017.

  1. Torry Cox Registered Member

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    Everything depends on education. There are people who, from the very childhood, are used to saying I use foul language. And now when they have grown up, for them it is in the order of things, because they communicate with the same people who are also mothers.
     
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  3. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Even the choice of words to use reflects personal values.

    One of the things people most admired about Bill Cosby's stand-up comedy over that of someone like, for instance, Richard Pryor, was that Cosby's choice of words he needed to use for comedic inspiration didn't require profanity.

    Even the choices of controlled substances and how you use them can kill comedy in a hurry. Andy Kauffman, on the other hand, actually made comedy about making bad or bizarre life and comedy material choices. Meta-comedy. His eventual demise likewise demonstrated, that sort of comedy can have tragic unintended consequences. Choosing quackery over science is a poor choice too, but if you are a GOP congressman, somehow you believe that is going to be healthier for a budget to line your own pockets with, even if it kills your constituents. They can't vote for you if they die, bozos. Killer clowns really don't try very hard to be funny, and the joke is on us.

    I had already stopped laughing at Trump long before the election. It's just not funny any more. It's been a very long time. Not only is something like the Civil War, slavery, and government dominated by the rich not funny any more; even someone like Jack Benny or Ben Stein couldn't salvage a laugh from the situation we are in now. No wonder Jon Stewart gave up; it became too easy and too serious all at once. Colbert continued trying, and what comes next when the FCC goes with Trump's value on censorship of television comedy is not funny any more either. What can be said of a society or an administration so misguided that it values censorship over criticism, even if one is not profane? Profanity doesn't even do it justice, that's what.

    A society needing less profanity without making blasphemy treason would be an improvement. Only separation of church and state accomplishes that.

    Values can change for all kinds of reasons. Those who would give up a freedom in exchange for other values like security probably won't be happy with ways their society will need to change in order to have that security. It doesn't make either choice right or wrong. Both choices are values.
     
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  5. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    No profanity was actually used in my last post, and my comedy almost always falls flat, FYI. Timing is a little off, I guess. It might be a while before any of us can have a laugh again. If that isn't a sad state of affairs, I don't know what is.

    When the FBI actually briefs Trump again about anything they are investigating or are willing to comment on, THAT should be funny. Bully prat-falls (3 stooges) always were a favorite mode of comedy to me. Somehow, a whole administration of stooges is not nearly as funny. Funny to think, if you gave them all ladders to build their wall, they'd probably stack the ladders on the ground sideways until the pile was high enough to actually make a wall. The mexican immigrants would then do what?
     
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  7. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    From my life experience many, although by no means all, of the people on the Internet are abusive.

    And I say this from experience because I've been abused on some online communities before and this is not the first time that someone wrote something offensive or hurtful to me or behaves aggressively (or even passive aggressively by completing ignoring me) toward me.
     
  8. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Dismantle the wall until it was low enough

    to use one of the ladders to reach the top

    and another on the other side to climb down

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  9. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Boy, howdy. Yes, they are, from personal experience as well. Well, it isn't nice to censor them either.

    Not ignoring you here. Your post is on topic. If you were a moderator, what would you suggest?
     
  10. birch Valued Senior Member

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    but this is just your beloved nature and laws of nature at work. so why do you 'scientists' have a problem with it? after all, feelings and ethics are not real (according to science) because it is not concrete, therefore unreal. So your taking offense at the non-existent must be your wild imagination. lmfao.
     
  11. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Values are real. Ethics is a value. Values matter. Values (of individuals) shape the way a society operates. Not every society values either knowledge or science.

    "Feelings" may include fear, including fear of the unknown, but fear is NOT a value, or at least, not one valued very much by science. The same goes for superstition.
     
  12. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Think I go with birch on this one

    Any type of value is NOT real

    If you consider values to be real please provide 1kg of any value of your choice

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  13. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Freedom is a value, and it is real. Think it's not? Even the freedom to walk down a local sidewalk means you need to don apparel, perhaps footwear, in accordance with what society deems appropriate for public exhibition. You must also obey pedestrian and traffic laws where applicable.

    Freedom to plant a garden and grow whatever foods you wish to eat means that someone else before you were even born likely had to harvest and retain a supply of seeds so that you can do that, not to mention the ownership of the land you grow it on, which also is, most definitely, not free.

    Ignoring either of these values may mean you are fined / imprisoned, or you may starve to death because otherwise all there is to eat is grass and tree bark. How much does the food you eat weigh?

    How much more real does it get? No freedom comes without responsibility, and responsibility is a value. Should we care if no one ever taught this to the POTUS? Probably. Is it going to make a difference in each of our lives if that individual doesn't understand this? Most definitely.

    Profanity just doesn't do it justice.
     
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  14. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Feel free to send 1kg of Freedom to the Darwin Australia Post Office labelled For Collection

    Make sure you put your address inside

    Let me know when it is on its way and I will do a daily check

    When I have collected it and have satisfied myself it is genuine Freedom I will return to you double your postage

    I wait in breathless real anticipation

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  15. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    You do know how dangerous it is to ask an American to send Freedom, right? Not very many happy customers after 1945. Besides, we're fresh out of any kind of freedom anyone else would really want. France might still have a little to spare.
     
  16. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Agree

    Any time America trys to export Freedom a war breaks out

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    At the moment I am trying to import 2 gram of Dictatorship from Cuba

    I have in mind to find a uninhabited island

    Set up a lab to reproduce Dictatorships and franchise them out

    Torn between

    McDictatorship
    Dictatorships R Us
    Dictatorship to Go
    Wal Dic

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  17. birch Valued Senior Member

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    wow.

    you have proven without a shadow of a doubt, that people can indeed be intelligent in one way and an imbecile in another way. but you are not alone, even here on sciforums.
     
  18. birch Valued Senior Member

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    i know, i was being facetious. ethics (values) and even emotions are real, just as one's thoughts are.
     
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  19. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Thoughts are formed from a PROCESS of

    electrical impulseses along with chemical reactions

    While both of those can be observed taking place the THOUGHT itself cannot be discerned

    But again if you consider thoughts to be real please forward 1 kg in a secure container

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  20. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    I take it, you don't play much poker?
    Values are learned. We value most (and usually pay attention to) the things most important to our survival).
     
  21. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't

    But if you are suggesting that face or body tells are THOUGHTS you are mistaken

    They are the results of electrical / chemical responses

    The THOUGHT could be

    I have a shitty hand

    or

    I need a shit

    Your pick

    And your welcome to collect both of those thoughts

    Tag which is which and send them to me

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  22. danshawen Valued Senior Member

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    Okay. If you want something physical, thoughts are waves of polarization of potassium and sodium ions. So I should send you a few charged batteries. Maybe worth a penny or two's worth of electricity, if I think about values all week.
     
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  23. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    If you listen to the comedy of the late comedian, George Carlin, he has a skit about swear words, which is funny, to me. His swear word skit, branches off into the F-word. He makes the point; of all the words in the English language, that begin with the letter F, f-ck, is the only one called the F-word. This unique designation, is due to its versatility. It is like a Swiss army knife of words with so many meanings.

    It can be used to express a wide range of emotions from anger ; F-you! , or despair; I am F-cked. It can express curiosity; what the F is that? Amazement; f-yah! Bewilderment; what the f are you talking about? There are many more.

    It allows a wide range of communication using a very compact vocabulary. What tends to happen is many people assume it has one meaning; sex, and don't realize how many different definitions is has. I tend to avoid using it among strangers, because so many people don't fully use the Swiss Army knife of words. This can create misunderstanding.

    Often the person in the streets, who says the f-word, everyone other words, is using all its definitions. It is a very interesting language dynamics that requires an emotional empathy and skills at body language but only one word.
     

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