prophecy revelation for jpappl

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Lori_7, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Assumptions again?
    Re-read what I wrote:
    "But science offers valid testable explanations.
    Objective ones, unlike art/ poetry etc."
    I didn't say that art and poetry etc have no value.

    Another incorrect assumption.
     
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  3. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    well, i see vampiric reference in relation to communion. drinking the blood of christ. the blood of christ being sinless (perfect), allowing restored communion with god and each other.
     
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  5. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Can't understand nuance?
    Science is an objective view of reality.
    Art etc isn't.
    Note I did say explanations of reality.
     
  8. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Everything I mentioned is part of reality, objective or subjective.

    You just can't accept that you're in fact wrong.
     
  9. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    Lori_7:

    This is an interesting take on holy communion.

    I wonder what inspired the vampiric myth(not belittling the fact that it may be true)...
     
  10. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What if you betray Hitler?
     
  11. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    maybe i'm wrong but betrayal kind of implies a false loyalty and/or dishonesty and i don't like that.
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    What if a Nazi got feelings of remorse and blabbed to the Allies about Hitlers whereabouts ? Would you condemn that ?
     
  13. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    In fact ? Then present the facts!
     
  14. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    no. shame he was loyal in the first place though huh? hitler couldn't have accomplished much on his own.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    So then betrayal is not always a fault.
    In fact, loyalty can then be a fault, do you not agree ?
     
  16. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i don't think that the fault lies in loyalty itself, but in the reason for the loyalty, or the thing or person you're loyal to, which may or may not be sinister.
     
  17. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, could that also be true for betrayal then ? Maybe.. perhaps ?
     
  18. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    well if you're loyal because you're being lied to (betrayal) then the lie is the fault (the betrayal).
    if you're loyal because you're stupid, careless, or evil, then those things would lie at fault.
    if there is no fault in the reasons for loyalty, then there is no need for a betrayal. if you find that you've been lied to, or have a change of heart, then there is no betrayal, because there is no longer any loyalty.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Which is betrayal.

    :bugeye:
     
  20. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    oh.

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  21. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Switching loyalties is betrayal, Lori.
    You cannot just say that betrayal is bad regardless of the situation. It's too simplistic.
     
  22. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    That is mere surface, they aren't changing what they feel.
     
  23. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I think it's the surface that is important.

    Like when your a kid you don't want to eat your veg, but you eventually reap the rewards, being healthier. The easiest or more natural thing to do is to eat a big mac, because it's tastier but obviously bad for you.

    Certain things can change your emotions I think but it's rare you can actually change them permanently. A leopard never changes its spots but actions speak louder than words.
     

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