Protoplasmic Crud

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  1. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Well his parents both were monkeys
    Who had crawled out of the mud
    He was simply made of matter
    Protoplasmic crud

    Formed by subatomic bumping
    In a random sort of way
    With no goal and no direction
    Simple animated clay

    Made complete by evolution
    He finally learned to walk
    Although nothing needed saying
    He somehow learned to talk

    And he built a vast dominion
    In which each thing had its use
    Saying all this leads to nothing
    Life's a complicated ruse

    The he gave himself a title
    Made himself a Ph.D.
    Gave himself the job of teaching
    This insane philosophy

    Though he claims we're going nowhere
    We are told that we should hurry
    And though we're only chemicals
    The chemicals still worry

    But now science has the answers
    To the problems of our race
    They've made billion dollar rockets
    To bring rocks from outer space

    Yes their ancestors were cavemen
    And they've shown it through the ages
    By their inability
    To listen to the sages

    Now the answer to this riddle
    Should they ever care to hear it
    Is that matter cannot move
    Until it's touched by spirit

    But it's hard to teach a monkey
    The things he cannot feel
    And it's hard to show a caveman
    What's beyond his cave is real

    But the hardest thing of all
    Is showing the absurdity
    Of claiming life's an accident
    To men with no humility
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Ignorance runs rampant, even in bad poetry.
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Evolution does not claim life is an accident.

    Now the answer to this riddle
    Should they ever care to hear it
    Is that matter cannot move
    Until it's touched by spirit


    Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."
     
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  7. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    given that abiogenesis forms the complete understanding of the origins of evolution, its hard to see where you are coming from

    and?

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  8. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't claim life to be accident. Rather, it's an inevitability based on simple numbers.
    The timing was chance, but the occurrence of life at some point is more or less inevitable.

    Anyway...what he means about the spirit coming from body is in many ways true. The human "soul" is the body's bioelectric energy, generated by the chemical reactions of the body. The soul did not come first, it was a result of chemical reactions.
     
  9. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    its not clear how you are offering anything alternative to "life is an accident"

    life (and its absence, namely death) involves more issues than mere bioelectricity - at the very least there is no empirical evidence for your wild claims (outside of science fiction)
     
  10. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    LG,

    Exactly the same can be said for spirits, gods, and souls.
     
  11. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    LG,

    But if life were an accident how would that give any credence to religious claims?
     
  12. Gondolin Hell hath no fury like squid Registered Senior Member

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    I don't like it when people call like an "accident". It's like saying life wasn't supposed to happen.

    If life WERE an "accident", it would give no credence to religion, just how the "non-accidental" life of today gives none.
     
  13. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    LG,

    Or -

    But the hardest thing of all
    Is showing the absurdity
    Of claiming mankind is special
    To men with arrogant pride
     
  14. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Gondolin,

    And why ever assume that life was "meant" to happen?
     
  15. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    If you knew how embarrassing such a statement is, you would never have uttered it. I almost feel sorry for you.
     
  16. superluminal I am MalcomR Valued Senior Member

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    HA! Hahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
     
  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It wasn't an accident, it was almost inevitable given initial conditions. Evolution itself is definately not random, but it uses chaos as an engine for change.
     
  18. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Are we still amusing ourselves with LG's rhetorical rants? Glad I've not missed much, the same old shit here! Or I'm aloud to say that with out having a damn warning of violating someone's feelings?

    Ya Super I laugh with ya!
     
  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    you don't consider yourself possessed of any special qualities distinct from an elephant or an amoeba?

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  20. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    still assuming that empiricism has the monopoly on evidence I see ....

    or alternatively, if life was created by god, how would that give any credence to claims that life is an accident?

    :scratchin:
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    yes, abiogenesis is shrouded in embarrassment

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  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps. Could you offer your perception of abiogenesis and explain why you think it an embarrassment?
     
  23. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    LG,

    All you are saying here is that life is caused by natural processes or magic happens.

    Don't think anyone has yet ever shown that magic has ever happened. And consequently you have zero credibility for suggesting it.
     

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