Putin's invasion of Ukraine

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Saint, Jan 20, 2022.

  1. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Sometimes the economic cost is irrelevant to the ideological purpose.
    Either Russia will rebuild that which has been destroyed, if it ends up being part of Russia (Putin has stated as much, I believe, not that his word has much weight these days), or they will have to pay reparations in some form.
     
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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Agrees!
    In this case (extending your point) though it is relevant to consider how many Russians support this ideological stance, especially now that conscription has opened up a well of discontent and fear among the general population.

    From general news it is suggested that support for this fake military adventure to support Putin's agenda is starting to fragment. Nothing compromises an ideological stance and all the lies that go with it more than truck loads of body bags and grieving families associated.

    I sort of wonder what it would be like being a late teen being pulled out of university to go fight in a war that makes little sense. Maybe I should just chat with some Vietnam Vet and find out....
     
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  5. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    They're opposing the war mostly because of the cost to themselves, not because they have any sympathy for innocent Ukrainians or respect for Ukraine's sovereignty. On that note, anyone who thinks Putin would find this adventure too costly to repeat if he's allowed to keep even so much as an inch of stolen territory, doesn't understand his ideology in the slightest.
     
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  7. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Yes...it does seem to be a character trait of those severely oppressed and living in their own propaganda bubble.
    He is spending someone else's money after all and no doubt skimming off the top in the confusion of budget allocations etc..
     
  8. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    They voted for the oppression and the propaganda bubble because they wanted to be lied to and told they're not intellectually, entrepreneurially and athletically inferior to people living in Westernized countries.

    Skimming money from Western purchases of oil and gas stolen from ethnic minorities, purchases that should never have occurred in the first place.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    there is billions of dollars missing from the military
    soo much corruption


    i wonder if russia intends to detonate a dirty bomb in kherson
     
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  10. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Based on the local hygiene, you'd think one had already gone off in Moscow hundreds of years ago.
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    dont drink the water & dont breath the air and you should be fine.
     
  12. arfa brane call me arf Valued Senior Member

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    Russian cruise missiles and the fog of war:

    Russia continues to target Ukranian power generation infrastructure with its missiles and drones.

    Zelensky is quite likely keen to see NATO become more involved.

    Is the latest incident, where Poland was hit by a missile, causing the deaths of two Polish citizens:

    1) an accidental strike by the Russians, since there have been plenty of reports of, well, targeting failures, already?
    2) a deliberate strike by the Ukranians with Russian-made missiles, so that NATO will invoke article 5?
    3) an accidental strike due to the poor design of Russian-made air defense systems, launched by Ukraine to destroy incoming cruise missiles?

    The news about this incident indicates (to me) that NATO won't be getting more involved, other than by supplying better air defense systems so that Ukraine can stop using the Russian ones.
     
  13. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    When Syria mistakenly shot a Russian plane down over the Mediterranean, Russia blamed the incident on Israel and used it as an excuse to send over S-400 air defenses, so I see no problem with reciprocating in response to this incident by sending Ukraine missile systems that weren't designed by low IQ thieving idiots.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    russians entered the wrong co-ordinates
     

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