Question for FoxMulder

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Adam, May 27, 2002.

  1. Agent@5 Registered Senior Member

    Agent Mulder, is the alien a contemporray phoenomenom? and can you do my essay about what was the political contribution to the panic of aliens. Thank you...

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  3. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member



    "Hate the sin but love the sinner?

    Joel's bible passages certainly refute my claim that "hate sin, but love the sinner as a general principle cannot be found anywhere in the bible". So should Christians live according to that principle? I do not believe so, and here's why.

    To fear the Lord is to hate evil. Proverbs 8:13 (NIV).

    Observe that this is technically an if-then statement. If a condition is met, then the outcome will be as described. So the question is: are Christians supposed to fear God?

    I find the proverb to be an insightful analysis of what is wrong with religious fundamentalists. Instead of loving God, they fear God. And the result is just as the proverb describes: hatred. It may only be hatred of evil, but the problem is that hatred, even "with good cause", usually corrupts the purity of one's motivation, and thus leads to evil. You just can't hate evil in the abstract. Sooner or later, you end up hating the people who are manifesting the (perceived or real) evil. People who hate fascism also hate Hitler. People who hate communism also hate Lenin, Stalin, Castro, Mao, and all the other communists. People who hate Christian conservativism usually hate the Pope and Pat Robertson. Similarly, Christians who hate homosexuality usually hate homosexual people.

    Jesus seemed to have a firm understanding of this limitation of human nature, as evidenced by the fact that he himself never instructs his followers to hate evil. Joel correctly observes that

    Jesus does not tell us to love their ideas or deeds (..)

    but Jesus does not tell us the contrary, either. He is simply silent on the issue of whether or not we should attempt to love our enemies while hating their deeds, because he understands fully well that this dangerous balancing act is beyond the capability of most people. It might be true that he

    built his moral legacy on his hatred of the hypocrisy of many of the political and religious leaders of his day,

    but that does not mean that he wanted us to try to do the same. That Jesus walked on water is not a commandment for us to try to do likewise.

    The apostle Paul is a splendid example of someone who tried to "walk on water" anyway. Paul speaks with such passion against his enemies that there can be little doubt that he did not love them as Jesus had instructed. He hated both sin and the sinner, and it is therefore not surprising that he would expand Jesus' doctrine of "love the sinner, period" to "love the sinner, hate the sin". In doing so, he laid the foundation for two millenia of Christian crimes against humanity, such as witch hunts, the "holy" inquisition and the brutal murdering of millions of "heathens" and "heretics". Jesus never intended these attrocities, but they were committed in his name regardless. Christians may dismiss this bloody history as human imperfection, but in reality, the seed of evil is right there, in the bible, contained in that impossible commandment to love the sinner but hate the sin.

    I therefore concede the point that this principle can be found in the bible. However, I stand firm in my belief that this principle, although it does not directly contradict the teachings of Jesus, almost universally inspires feelings and behavior that do. Therefore, Christian leaders would be well advised to not emphasize this principle."
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  5. relleumsirhc Banned Banned


    hey uh i just read this whole thing and it seems u were short on answers for the last 10 questions...... why dont u answewr them??? id like to see the excuses you make up this time...........
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