Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Tiassa, Jul 12, 2008.
Yes, ratheur, olde chappe. Top hole, aqtually.
Marvellous, simply marvellous.
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Yet I'm quite sure you barack for Pakistan when the two teams play.
I remember very fondly Pakistan's win over England in the world cup final many years ago. Imran was absolutely superb as captain and player.
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It is indeed true that all of 'the colonies' get very great satisfaction from beating their colonial masters at their very own game.
It is so much more than sport.
When Sri Lanka, New Zealand, Pakistan, West Indies, Bangladesh, India, Zimbabwe, hell, even South Africa beat England, we all celebrate.
If Australia beats them(if /chuckle) there's a deep satisfaction.
Cricket is almost warfare, the ball is lethal and unlike baseball it is hurled into the pitch to bounce at the batsman, yes at him, his body, specifically the head, neck, nuts and feet.Aiming at the stumps is saved for when the batsman is rattled.
Broken fingers are just a part of the game, broken mandibles happen from time to time. Being struck by this rocklike missile at 90-95mph is extraordinarily painful, There is padding but not everywhere.
Cricketers are a tough bunch and showing any sign of pain is to give the bowler a mental edge so a broken finger is often not even acknowledged by the batsman. A hit to the nuts will drop any man but searing smacks to ribs or arms are commonplace and brushed off , definitely no soccer style histrionics here.
The game is a simple enough concept: two teams, each bats twice, scores for each innings are added and the team who scores more wins.
The wicket or pitch is a major variable in the course of the match.
The first day, it will have some greenness left in the grass which promotes bounce and sideways movement of the ball (good for the bowling team) but the moisture will usually leave the pitch fairly quickly especially if it is hot weather and the pitch settles into a good batting deck.
Into the third, fourth and fifth days, the pitch will wear, start to form cracks ( it's dry and rock hard) which is much more difficult to bat on. It will usually start to provide assistance for the spin bowlers as this happens.
So you can see there needs to be a balance of players in the team to exploit the different aspects of the wearing pitch.
Before the game even commences there is great interest in the composition of the selected team and the condition of the pitch.
A standard, well balanced team ( eleven players) consists of four or five specialist bowlers, a specialist wicket keeper and usually six specialist batsmen, hopefully your specialist bowlers can bat with some ability also and the allrounder who can bat and bowl at a high level is obviously a very valuable player.
There are several specialist fielding positions and a good team has players who are suited to the variety of positions, close catching, agile run saving positions that sort of thing.
Each batsman has one life, if you are caught, you're out, bowled, out etc. but there is no limit to how long any batsman can continue their innings so a good innings might yield 50 or 100 runs or more. If a few of your batsmen make good individual scores the team score amasses. A good first team innnings would be in the rgion of 400 runs.
Wow! we are still at the tip of the basic explanation here, the intricacies would fill volumes.
Anyway that'll do for now.
If you are keen ask a question.
I'll post a few more of the basics as I go along
I remember taking a catch at Point from a VERY hard hit square cut - I had to dive to my right and take it one handed.
The pain was excruciating, and when I looked at my hand afterwards I had hundreds of individual little bruises running down my middle finger and onto my palm which exactly matched the pattern of stitching on the ball.
Spud Emperor, actually i didnt even notice when i broke my finger. I was keeping and got a REALLY fast one straight through which i caught wrong and it fractured my middle finger. It hurt for about a minute but i finished keeping the innings then went out to bat and scored 50. It was only after that i noticed how much pain i was in and spent the party i went to that night with my hand on a block of icePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
who here is gonna expose the aussies?
See this is what I'm talkin' about.
You tuff Aussie sonafabitch!
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Actually it was an interesting night, i had a broken finger and her dad had poured petrol over the wood in the fire so when she lit it it exploded and she ended up burt. So basically i followed her around all night with my finger on her cold packPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I guess the most obvious difference between baseball (or softball and "aerial" type ballgames where the ball is thrown, not kicked) and cricket, is that obviously, a cricket ball has to contact the ground (like in tennis) before a batsman (that's the batter, for the cricket-challenged) can hit the bugger.
If he misses, what happens next depends on whether the other team (who are out in the field, but fielding a bowler - translation: "pitcher") can stop the ball, or catch it and remove the bails with it from the batsman's wicket (if the silly bastard happens to have stepped out of the batting crease).
As Spud has mentioned, the wicket (or the pitch - the same word is used for the game as for the sticks they balance those silly little bits of wood on called bails which is Saxon for "balls", as for the bit of earth they bowl the ball along), or the wicket's condition which obviously depends on whether the weather has been kind, how pissed the groundsman was, and so on, is paramount to such principles of the game, as "spin attack" by certain bowlers, or "pace", another Saxon word for "speed", I believe.
Some of these guys run like buggery and fire the ball at well over 100k (not that often though, and like baseball the bowlers tend to bugger up their shoulders, and their feet get pretty buggered after a while, I'd say).
P.S. Yes thanks Asgard, the truth of it is that the bowler only has to try to hit the wickets of the guy at bat. But usually it hits the pitch at some point, although there was a (still remembered) test series between two countries a while back, where the bowlers were instructed by the captain to throw (correction: bowl) the ball at the batter, at his body, never mind the bloody pitch, eh matey?
actually thats not TECHNICALLY true, it doesnt HAVE to hit the dirt. Infact some of the best deliveries are pitched to bounce right on the toe of the batsmen. Its called a yorka and its dam near impossable to hit unless you can quickly judge what its going to do and get forward to hit it on the full (without bouncing)
Oh shit, of course, the batsman can move toward the oncoming ball and connect with it on the full - which is what a certain NZ batsman used to do a fair bit, old Lance-a-lot.
Vkothii, please desist from calling the bowler a thrower or chucker..sacrilege!
The art of bowling is absolutely not to throw the thing.
It's a straight armed delivery, it's kinda like rule no. 1 of the game.
You're entering purist territory, tread carefully.
Gustav, you cheeky bastard, the Aussies have done everything possible in the game..best record of any test nation, longest winning streak etc, etc.
They have been accused of using too much gamesmanship ( sledging ) from time to time. Meh!
Good to see you here, it appears the other Americans have dropped off, scratching their scones.
I met Lance Cairns after a mates' wedding once, he was drinking with Rod Marsh, Bruce Yardley and Thommo.
I got in a shout round with Rod Marsh...big mistake!
Lance was a fuckin' man mountain.
Actually it doesn't have to be a straight arm delivery, but you could bowl with a bent arm so long as it didn't straighten any more than 15 degrees.
There you go - another big difference between baseball and cricket is you have to bowl (not chuck or throw) the ball. The cricket ball is quite a bit heavier than a baseball, and even if you were allowed to throw or pitch it, getting it to the other end of a full-size wicket pitch without it contacting the ground is a bit of a challenge.
The rule is that the ball must be bowled, or the shoulder must rotate and no bending the elbow. There are only two ways to deliver a ball without throwing (bending the elbow), a forwards and a backwards shoulder movement with a straightened arm, i.e. either a forward or reverse (as in petanque) bowling action. For some reason, the petanque style doesn't get a fair go where cricket is concerned.
Is the rule no more than 15 deg. of elbow bending?
Yes, it used to be no allowance, but it was found to be physically impossible, so in essence everyone was breaking the rule, so the rule had to be changed to fit the players.
Most people can do it with only 5 dgrees of bend, Muralitharan on the other hand, is a freak and the rules were actually revised to accomodate him.
How are the Americans going?
Good, we'll continue.
Um! I don't think our American friends ( they've all fucked awf by the way so I'll resume talking in my native tongue), I mean Seppoes, will 'ave a friggin clue what we're talkin' about from here. You have offended their fragile sensibilities with terms like running in like buggery ( huh! how does a bugger run?) ( doesn't buggery run out?) and (100k, isn't that an income?).
It's more like 150 kmh although Thommo and Shaun Tate have broken the 100mph barrier.
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