Reality is mathematics / Mathematics is reality ?

Still waiting to find out how the universe can calculate (process) what 1+1 = ? ( or x+y = ? ) or any mathematics for that matter...

 

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the Universe can't without life being part of the Universes existence .

 

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Does 1+1=11?

 

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No

1 next to 1 = 11

Numerical 1 PLUS numerical 1 = numerical 2

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1psi + 1psi = 1psi

 

The universe does not calculate, it functions in a mathematical chronological order. It builds new patterns from the ground up, using inherent compatible values or patterns, just like a puzzle . Plato recognized some of these patterns a long time ago. Today this early perspective on independent patterns has been replaced by fractals.

https://fractalfoundation.org/resources/what-are-fractals/

Today we are dealing only with the gap from nano-scale to Planck scale, each level becoming less physical and more abstract in the fundamental fractal Mechanics of the universe.

Quantum mechanics. The functional processing of values at any form of density or physical attributes, the resulting pattern from the interaction of all expressible abstract values in a pattern. Atoms are patterns of three fundamental particles. There is your physical part. From that point it's all mathematical.

At Planck scale things are no longer physical, as witnessed from the laws of physics breaking down at that level and existence can be measured as a physical value (mass) but also as a wave (function), each with completely different potentials.

Bohm resolves that cunundrum. And IMO, Tegmark's (Mathematical Model) may provide access to that equation.

Why do we ask what created the forest, why don't we ask what created the trees and their growth patterns, which are far from random in a chaotic forest environment?

 

Thanks....
So there for it is not mathematical.

 

Is a daisey not mathematical a mathematical pattern? Does a daisey calculate its Fibonacci sequence in petal formation?

Look at the world from a perspective of only patterns in various relative states of expression
An atom is a pattern made of
An electron is an EM negative value
A proton is an EM positive value.
A quark has several values. Each value imbued by the specific pattern of the constituent values.

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https://www.livescience.com/18141-wacky-physics-particle-flavors.html

And mathematical organizational patterns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_charge

Note that all of these values would be useless unless they were instrumental to expression in reality. It is all about relative values and functions in the formation of physical patterns.

Note that atoms display probabilistic aspects rather than purely physical confirmation.
Even their physical pattern is dynamical. With increasing density of patterns, the greater the physical expression of predictable emergent mathematically patterned objects.

 

well.... does it?
and if so how does it?

 

No it doesn't. It does not need to know anything. It merely has a machine that creates the mathematical pattern.
This machine (DNA) is the mathematical (enzymaticformula which determines the Fibonacci sequences in the daisy's growth pattern.
The same as with sunflowers, pine cones, and a host of other evolved photosynthetic plants . It is efficient and by the laws of natural selection, efficient patterns tend to have a survival advantage over inefficient systems.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/enzymatic

 

so... uhm... it is mathematics that does no calculating... how is that?

 

The interactions of values are processed step by step in mathematical order. No one does any calculation. The universe knows the relative universal values and processes these values via mathematical functions and guiding equations. "gravity" is an accelerating force derived from a mathematical spacetime pattern. There is no calculation involved. Human do the calculating in order to understand how the universe does it.

No intent, no purpose, it is the way the universe functions. Universal mathematical values and functions form the foundation of theorical mathematics and by extension practical mathematics, which are "intentionally" used by humans for our pleasure.

It is not a secret, we know how it works, down to certain (dimensional) levels and up to a certain (geometric) size.

 

Why are you making this so difficult? You are dealing with axioms, which are established observable aspects of reality.
1 + 1 = 2 is an axiom in any other language.

Just as potential commends itself as 'that which may become reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom

 

Show how a universe can calculate 1+1 and not just be the number 2
Mathematics is about calculation. It is the processing of data points using functions. It is not just a function. or a number ...
It takes mathematics to calculate a pattern. It is not just the pattern.

How does the universe calculate Pi?
It isn't even just Pi.
Pi is for perfect curves, perfect geometry, none of which exists in the universe naturally.

 

The universe does not calculate! It just functions in a certain way. This certain way is what we have named "mathematical" . There are no numbers, numerators, and denominators, there are only values becoming expressed when interacting with other physical forces or values.

What??? The wave function does not exist in nature?
You do know that Pi is intimately connected with the "wave configuration". A fundamental aspect of the universe.

Of course it does, in the abstract. Plato, Fibonacci showed us that the universe is full of patterns which can be ideally "defined" with mathematics. And which proves that the universe possessed these attributes long before man was but a single celled organism.

Take Phi, it can be found all around you. This is how we came to the term, "Golden Ratio". A spiral curve. We did not invent the Golden Ratio! It is but one of the Universe's mathematical aspects.

Don't forget that all our mathematics come from observation of nature. Are you denying that nature is the teacher of the arts and sciences?
All human descriptions of natural phenomena are symbolic in nature. The universe deals with patterns but it does not deal with symbols, we do!

When becoming expressed there are other forces which hinder the formation of perfect shapes. But nowhere does it say that something needs to be perfect for it to be functional.

As Hazen observed we tend to think in dichotomies, possible or impossible. That is wrong thinking. Try "in between". Mathematics symbolizes the universal values and functions which account for a universal dynamic environment, a permittive condition (fields), with natural mathematical permissions and restrictions.

In a probabilistic universe there is a range of potential probabilities ranging from a 100% purely deterministic immediate certainty to a 1% deterministic probability, a long term probabilistic uncertainty.

 

Without man to observe (create) the mathematics of the universe, we would be without mathematics.

 

I think it depends what you intend the word "calculate" to mean.

If it means something like "find an approximate solution", then the universe doesn't do this--all the 'solutions' are exactly what they should be, assuming particles don't interact approximately.

If it means "find an exact solution", then the universe does calculate. Or compute, if you will.
So is every process in the universe an identifiable computation? Why do we build models of natural processes on computers, and why is it hard to do?
I mean, the universe doesn't have any problems with it . . .

 

But the universe would work exactly the same as it does now. Mathematics exist in the abstract. Universal functions must follow certain natural permissions and restrictions. These constant universal "guiding formulas" are mathematical in essence and can be symbolically represented with human mathematics.

But even if there are no humans, a frog uses triangulation to catch a fly. Birds use aerodynamics to fly. Pressures will always exist in massive bodies.
Solids, Fluids, Gases will alway exists, each with very specific mathematical common denominators which can be expressed as mathematical equations.

Human are not necessary for the universe to use abstract universal mathematics as a natural orderly function. We're not that important. We are lucky to have a sophisticated brain which is able to symbolically figure out the mathematical functions of the universe.

But we are still learning.

 

Seems to me that people mistakenly take mathematics to mean intelligence. It doesn't.

IMO, mathematics is a function of spacetime geometry and exists regardless of intelligence or life itself. We just haven't found all the inherent universal mathematics yet to symbolically represent all the universal functions.

 

I understand the term does calculate to imply some sort of process SEPERATE to the process

Clearly incorrect

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