Religious Nonsense

Discussion in 'Religion' started by StrangerInAStrangeLand, Jul 21, 2018.

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  1. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The main source of the disparagement you receive arises from your unconventional use of the word abrahamic. Your inability to use the word meaningfully has zero to do with your perception of anyone else's linguistic skills, real or imagined.
    If it was an honest mistake on your behalf, as you vigorously sought the shortest route to identity politics rants, you've had more than enough time to clear it up. Instead you just go deeper into absurdity.
    Of course, if identity politics rants never leave the realm of absurdity, it is no great loss.
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    And what was the justification for keeping all the young virgin women for themselves?
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    And they are all seriously flawed documents that would never stand up to scientific inquiry on supposed factual physical scriptural interpretation of the history and evolution of the universe. Nevermind the God which is supposed to have created this factual scriptural mess.

    How does a "divine word of God" thrive in a world where "God has confounded all languages" ?
    Give me a break.
    Christian schisms and their councils.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_denomination

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_schools_and_branches#Quranism

    p.s. the only language which is completely standardized and consistent is a "mathematical language".

    E = Mc^2 means exactly the same at Oxford as it does at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences (Italian: Pontificia accademia delle scienze, Latin: Pontificia Academia Scientiarum) is a scientific academy of the Vatican City,

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontifical_Academy_of_Sciences

    p.p.s. At the findings of the Pontifical Academy of sciences, two popes have declared Darwinian evolution to be fact. "A small step for man, a giant leap for religion?
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Eh, I don't pay a lot of attention to some peoples posts; I can't really comment.
     
  8. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Well thats encouraging.

    You have to take what you can get.

    Things will get better ...I tend to blame religion but it may be like many reasonable institutions that humans can stuff up...sortta like communism ..it would work except for the humans☺

    Alex
     
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  9. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    So your essential view is that anything that is culturally expressed automatically removes itself from an objective (reputable ? valid?) knowledgeable status (by dint of cultural "affliction")?
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all. Anything that is not true in spite of common belief removes itself from an objective
    knowledgeable status. Evidentiary facts persist in spite of your beliefs.
    For centuries people believed the earth was 6000 or 9000 years old and that all of universal history occurred within those few thousand years. Should we accept this cultural expression as true, just because it was "common knowledge" at that time and still today?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum
     
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  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    I don't use that word.
    And my use of Abrahamic is not "the source" (illiterate, as always - half your posting reads like an incompetent translation from some other language) of any of your abuse or disparagement. It's an occasional pretext, but as with all your pretexts the issue itself you ignore.
    The bullshit "if", followed by personal disparagement and insult. No thread issue addressed.
    The overt Abrahamic theist posts on a science forum.

    Why?
     
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  12. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    PTSD triggered once again by the word "if". It's like a regular schtick, you never fail to deliver on. Its like a banana peel in slapstick
    And as far as "why's" go, the only one worth ruminating on is why you can't seem to stop abrahamicing yourself into corners.
     
  13. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure you understand.
    You previously linked a chart showing various divisions that arose as a consequence of social/ideological (aka cultural) schisms. Since it is inevitable that culture lends itself to such division/development/change/schism, are you of the opinion that this is a fatal flaw as it pertains to valid (?) knowledge?

    If not, what precisely is the "fatal flaw" you are alluding to with such charts? What are you looking for in terms of a singular, non-changing historical narrative that equates with credibity (validity?)?
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Not at all. But it does not prove God confounded their languages, just to make human life miserable, either. There is a perfectly natural logical explanation without the need for a decision made by a supernatural sentience as recorded in theist history.

    Insurance companies still have clauses such as "Acts of God", a common term, but that does not make any natural disaster a factually true Act of God. Thor died in human history a long time ago.
    Oddly, Thor has not yet died in the mind of a Chimpanzee. To an Alpha Chimp, Thor is a real threat. Some "unseen" being, making loud noises and throwing light beams and water at him and his family.
    Rings a bell, no?

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    http://thanasis.com/winds.htm
     
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  15. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    So what would a natural disaster (one that bears a connection to an omnimax God) look like in your opinion ?
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Not a single one. If they are natural disasters then they are by definition explainable in terms of the composition of our biosphere and the pertinent physical mathematics.
    No god is required for such "naturally" occurring "patterns".
     
  17. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't answer the q.
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry to be obtuse. A natural disaster, such as being struck by a large asteroid, is by definition not the machinations of a sentient, creative, supernatural entity, no? It might have looked that way millions of years ago. But not today, I believe.
    Better?
     
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  19. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    You stlll have not answered the q.
    Let's try it a different way, since you don't seem to want to answer it.

    What is it about the planet getting struck by an asteroid that rules out a connection to an omnimax God?
     
  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The overt Abrahamic theist posts on a science forum.
    Over and over and over, nothing but that.
    The question is: why?

    This is a science forum. We have data, evidence - the posts, literally thousands of them, just on this forum.
    It's a legitimate question of significance to matters of interest here, such as the role and position of science and scientific inquiry in our larger societies
     
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  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    That is dishonest, that question. And by now, since the argument is so long familiar, its dishonesty is conscious - deliberate.
    (If you are brand new to this: by definition nothing rules out an "omnimax God". If something could rule it out, it wouldn't be an omnimax God. And since everyone here knows that, and the poster knows that everyone knows that, the question is in bad faith

    - a species of dishonesty universal and ubiquitous among the overt Abrahamic theists who post here).
     
  22. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    A world wide flood, where it was clear there was nowhere near enough water to accomplish the task.
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Once again, I see no possible "natural event" which would demand a "supernatural" explanation. What is so hard to understand?

    If you consider a probabilistic path by an asteroid starting millions of years ago on a journey from another galaxy, long before man had even appeared on earth and mankind itself was just a probabilistic potential, the picture of "motivated sentient action" changes.

    I find it highly improbable that this was plotted by a sentience for the specific purpose of teaching an as yet non-existent human animal a lesson in the future.

    There are far simpler explanations than an omnimax God which satisfy all requirements for such a probabilistic event.

    The known natural universal mechanics are not all that complicated. Don't make the unknown mechanics unnecessarily complicated.....

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