It's NEVER gonna happen. No one will be impeached. The libs are just grasping at straws. Again...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Impeachments are fairly rare in the history of this country, so I think the "potential" for criminal wrongdoing is not enough to actually persure such a course. And then there's the whole, show me something that Cheney has done that is illegal. Of course, to the rabid left, proof isn't necessary. Only intense dislike.
Proof is an emergent from investigation and impeachment, not a precursor. The simple act of stonewalling Congressional demands for information, involving simultaneous claims of executive privilege and non-membership in the executive branch, without the connection to various obvious illegalities (the Plame outing, the warrantless wiretaps, the secret meetings with corporate interests, the conflicts of interest re Halliburton, etc etc etc) would be enough for an impeachment, if Congress had not been weakened and corrupted in advance. If the weak sisters, naysayers, and crybabies hadn't spent three years now whining about how it's too much trouble, you can't do it anyway, it'll never happen, his term will be over soon, etc etc etc, and instead done their job as responsible citizens and officials we might have saved ourselves much of the very serious attorney general mess, made some real steps toward cleaning up the vote fraud operations in time for the 08 elections, interrupted the misdirection of many billions in government contracts, and possibly caught the subprime mortgage scandal with a year or so less in exponentially growing damage.
Networking with Haliburton and the oil industries and certain portions of the armed forces to manipulate americans into going to war and thus transferring funds from taxpayers to Cheney's former and future employers and co board members should not be an impeachable offense. This was standard practice for thousands of years and I stand behind tradition. Anyway all these seeming links between the administration and the companies who are and will profit from the war are coincidences. Public figures are NEVER motivated by money.
because it will show who stands where on this impeachement issue, which is that only a fringe "reality-based" minority would like to proceed with impeachment. most of them know that there are no grounds for impeachement and this will confirm and legitimize the Administration's actions, and will show that the Dems are showing more support for Bush & Co. This will also stop any further talk of impeachment. not having to vote and confirm this shows to the Dems' base that they believe the Administration is criminal, and enables them to distance themselves from Bush. one bad thing coming out of this is that it sends a confusing signal that Republicans DO want to impeach Cheney. even people in this thread were confused. in reality the Republicans want the opposite.
Everyone with a lick of sense who can read newspaper knows there are grounds for impeachment. That's not the issue.
so why don't they? why not impeach if you can increase anti-Republican sentiment and gain more seats?
Witty? Are you kidding? There are people who actually believe the fact that Haliburton got certain contracts could have possibly had something to do with their connections to Cheney. This is no laughing matter. Stuff the Dems would have defended Clinton to the death on they become conspiracy theory buffs about when it comes to Republicans. If we elect a president...or perhaps better put: if a president is elected who has ties to the oil industry then their desire for military intervention in the last two nations we invaded should not be assumed to play any role in the decision-making process. We should assume integrity. Innocence until proven guilty is the rule of this land. Cynicism sees patterns. Some Dems. have pointed out that Republicans 'went into a tizzy' over Whitewater and blow jobs when current administration decisions affected American lives - such as more soldiers or Americans now having died in Iraq than on 9/11 and other horrible unpatriotic ways of looking at things - but this is simply cynical. The fact that the administration was trying to find excuses to go into Iraq before 9/11 is not taking into account how forward thinking the Bush Administration has been. And the fact that Cheney was a strong supporter of Hussein and even backed up the idea of suppressing criticism of his killing Kurds en masse to waving the flag for Hussein's removal without ever explaining his past positions. But this shows no understanding of realpolitik by trying to mingle morals and consistency where they don't belong. And whatever he's done it probably isn't an impeachable offense and there's justice and synchronicity in that. If you don't like Cheney you're just hanging on to some sick ideal of what the country should be.
"They" don't have the power, in the first place. "They" are only some of the Dems and one or two of the Reps, and even if they were all of the Dems it wouldn't be enough. And the increase in anti-Republican sentiment is not a given - there are plenty of people like you and Count, who regard the whole issue as one of illusion-based partisan conflict between Dems and Reps, while the media that would be mediating the "sentiment" is widely corrupted and coopted, as well as weakened in its resources. And there is an election coming up - an impeachment proceeding would throw a serious turd in that pool. And it could be that the more powerful Dems - who are in partisan conflict with the Reps, possibly as an overwhelming consideration - think they will gain more toward their various ambitions from the continued presence of these guys in office, making the kinds of headlines inevitable in the next few months, than they would from an impeachment proceeding that could be spun against them more easily. That kind of realpolitik may appear cynical, but the argument that more of this garbage must be borne to make sure of getting rid of the source is persuasive to some. I think that is dangerous and damaging, as a strategy, for the country itself - but probably when up to one's ass in alligators it's hard to concentrate on draining the swamp.
are you kidding? any talk of formal impeachment hurts Republicans. i cannot picture a way how this can be spun by the [left-leaning] mainstream media to make Republicans look good. picture some average guy reading the newspaper -- "Cheney is facing corruption charges". do you think he will be voting Republican next November? that, right there, makes the Dems unworthy of any sort of position in government. if Cheney is as corrupt as they believe, and they don't impeach him, that makes them an accessory to a crime, doesn't it? or just unbelievably cynical. but it is a potential reason. still though, all the commentary i've read about this says the same thing i've said in my first post here -- that Dems simply don't want having their daily claims of 'corruption' and 'criminality' laid to rest.
