Rules concerning what constitutes a personal attack are too vague

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*checking the list* Eek, you have just saying 1 out of the 6-you-know-what, Bells

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Scott, moderating are voluntary jobs, so why make it difficult for everybody? Also, why take everything so serious, above the sky there is also another sky, you know....! Confused? It's because it's irrelevant

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I am oh so sleepy, good night, everyone!

 

Even forum rules makes it clear that the 6 example terms is not the complete list. Perhaps there will never be a complete list, but surely a few more then 6 can be put up.

I believe you've already given a relatively good definition; I just don't think it's in the forum rules.

I don't. However, there are already other words not in the 6 term list that have had action taken against them; such as the f word and derivatives, prick and pea brain. I'm sure there are others. Why not add them to the blacklist?

Recently, you seemed to imply that Ophiolite was bantering and yet he specifically stated that he wasn't. Was he being sarcastic? Who knows. All I know is that it may not always be clear cut. However, I'm willing to put aside the banter issue for now; a hard and fast rule may be that if the mod thinks it's banter and no one complains, it can be classified as banter. The impotant thing, in my view, is expanding the blacklist, with terms that have already had action taken against them; as even you have made evidently clear, it is simply not always known when an insult is considered censurable here; adding to the blacklist would help in this regard.

 

I think I've dealt with the banter argument and I think that's clearly happening now

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. You mods clearly decide as to what you consider to be censurable terms. I have no problem with that. Just make a more complete list so that everyone -else- knows what terms you guys consider off limits. Heck, I'm even ok with different forums having different blacklists; as long as there's a place to check, both people who tend to get a bit harsh with the language and those who like to report insults at times, they can both have a reference to know what insults are censurable.

 

Create a kumquatting poll and find out what the general opinion on "adding words" to the cucumbered list is.

Otherwise DROP THE FUCKING SUBJECT OR GO ELSEWHERE.
SciForums is NOT about what YOU want out of it.
Square pegs do not fit into round holes.

 

of course! any police state would, i thought you knew that.
talk about thumbscrews . . .

 

People stop cursing please and speak in a courteous manner towards each other.

 

Let's not get carried away there Bells

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. Why not simply include words that moderators have taken action against?

No, I don't; you explained it to me. However, I don't think that everyone in this forum has read your explanation.

I think I do; I think what you're saying is that innocuous words, when used in a personal attack, can become something else. Granted. At that point, by all means, use moderator discretion. What I'm talking about are obvious insults that only in exceptional circumstances would be considered anything else. If one of those exceptions occurs, let it pass. But I still think it should be included in the blacklist.

He didn't seem to be overly insulting. And I've taken your idea that innocuous words can be used as personal attacks to heart; I've just reported what I believe is the first post that uses this method (not yours, despite our disagreements, I've never reported anything of yours; it was that dang leopold again).

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Yes, I definitely think that the f word and its derivatives should be included. I happen to know that action has been taken against this term more then once and I agree with those decisions.

If you included kumquats, yes. However, I think that the f word can certainly be included. I can go for it as rarely being used as banter, I'm just saying that in general it's not and people should be aware that when verbally attacking one's opponent, the term is off limits. No hitting below the belt type deal.

I do

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Not quite. I certainly agree that some attacks can be so creative as to use generally harmless words and turn them into heat seeking missiles. It might at times be instructive to tell the poster of the insult where they went wrong but I certainly don't think that some words should be included in a blacklist just because some people are fairly creative when they go on the attack. However, there are others, such as the f word that are generally red flags. So why not expand the black list to include such terms?

Probably not. Most people don't have a lot of patience. But that's their problem, not the problem of the mods. And if they do use one of the more common personal attacks, a mod can simply say 'read the blacklist next time'.

 

That's essentially what I'm trying to accomplish. Thanks for putting it succinctly draqon.

 

Very funny Bells

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. I'm not saying that vegetables should be on the black list, but you do have a point about compound terms. Perhaps we can skip over the compound terms for now and simply focus on single term insults. For instance, the rules say that profanity isn't allowed. But I'm certainly not sure as to what would constitute profanity. A list of profanities that sci forums considers to qualify would be helpful; perhaps they could even link to a page that's elsewhere so that only those who aren't sure what qualifies could check.

 

Draq: re-read some of your own posts before you start spouting this sort of nonsense.

 

you think he's bad now you should've been around about a month ago.
ol' draq is pretty well laid back but he's been acting like he's got a bug up his ass recently.

 

Is it really that difficult? Is language truly such a challenge? Is comprehension always just beyond your grasp.

Nowhere. N O W H E R E, have I asked for, demanded, suggested was attainable, promoted, or otherwise spoken in favour of absolute consistency. You change the entire fabric of the discussion by introducing an unwanted, unasked for, unwashed absolute.

You go on to say "I fully understand where you are coming from."

If you can introduce an obfuscating absolute into the equation then I doubt you even know where you are coming from, let alone anyone else. Please learn to read. That involve more than recognising the words on a screen. You need to think about what they mean.


To Dxm, or whatever your aphalebt is, why should I leave the forum because people lack reading skills? Did you ask that because you lack logical skills?