Saving Planet Earth

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by Deist27, Mar 5, 2003.

  1. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    Best evidence strongly suggests that many years ago the earth was struck by some natural disaster and has been dying ever since. This may have been a huge meteor striking the earth, a shift in the suns magnetic fields affecting the Earth, or many other theories could be correct. If all human life had disappeared at the time of the disaster, or never later appeared, did you know this would still be a dying planet? The world is dying even without us! As earth born people and a natural part the world, view ourselves as the only possible saviors and not the destroyers of our own planet.
    The unchecked result of planetary evolution can now be seen by modern technology. Natural forces, if left alone, will lead the Earth into the same condition as our neighboring planets, dead and lifeless rocks. Only direct and intelligent action can reverse the direction.
    Geology reveals a once tropical Earth with food and plants in abundance. Then something happened that changed the climate forever. Figuratively speaking, the Earth became a less complex living organism because a variety of species were lost. In other words, all life on Earth breaking down. Survival in this world became a struggle for both animals and plants. Adaptation to the new and scarce food environment became a never-ending search for provisions, weakening surviving species of the disaster even further. A sick and dying planet fails to provide a healthy diet. Starvation, disease and defects soon became common. Some of the survivors learned to accept the radically altered environment by becoming predators. Meat eaters became dominant in the alleged “food chain” of self-serving creatures. Weather patterns also became hostile. Periodic droughts followed by famine, then flooding washing away the topsoil, has further reduced most vegetation to coastal areas and floodwater regions. Geological evidence also reveals that harsh conditions led to extinctions with fewer and weaker species surviving. Because starving animals and humans have been forced to devour the remaining trees and shrubs and even each other, it can be said that all life on Earth is in danger of extinction as we eat our way to death. And with the carnage so vast after the natural disaster, seawaters quickly became salty. Dead animals and plants washed down by erosion turned fresh water seas into the saltwater oceans of today. Most of the earth is now, already, baron and desolated waste areas of ice, saltwater and sand. Nor has any new species ever been shown coming into existence since the disaster struck. Nor can any species evolve upwards under such difficult and hostile conditions because the greater complexity available before the disaster is necessary for developing the most complex life. Truly the Earth became a sick and dying world.
    Thus fossil fuel burning is not causing the problem. Although some animal and human activities accelerate the dying process, it’s also true that life in general has been trapped by the disaster's price tag of survival of the fittest, the most vicious wins, and the predator-prey relationship existing in a brutal world. Mother Earth, what a Bitch

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  3. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    Good question Andre, what can we do?
    We face a desperate but not hopeless situation. Pollution ending technologies need to be developed by new business' rising up with new ideas. Big business is dependent on the present technology and will not initiate change. New and uncertain small businesses have more difficulty complying with massive government regulations. Big business can afford the extra cost of over-regulation. Then also many pollution laws eliminate competition by making the price out of reach. Even the big fines that are sometimes inflicted on big business are paid off with little difficulty. Yet the same fines crush a small company. Thus governments' environmental regulations are helping big business by hurting competition. To encourage the new technologies needed to save the planet, we must encourage small business through de-regulation! Neither can we or should we compete with overseas sweatshops, an integral part of international corporations. Yet this is where Big Business moved when domestic regulations became excessive. Remember watching the movie "Norma Rae" heroine of the labor unions. She was portrayed as courageously fighting for workers rights. All she and the Union accomplished by getting more laws passed was to get the textile industry shipped overseas. This resulted in fewer workers rights, not only in America but also globally, because the textile industry then began operating in the sweat shops of non-democratic countries. Thus real solution to environmental issues and human rights is through capitalistic tax cuts and entrapanurial growth, the very opposite of government control systems. That means vote Republican for a change

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    Is not reducing human population the only answer? There's plenty for everyone (including our co-evolutionary life forms) if we don't overbreed. I am constantly puzzled by the omission of this issue from western politics, and assume that it is because ecomomic growth, (ie money for some) is generated most easily by increasing the level and density of our human population.
     
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    Concerning Over-Population and our "Race to Save the Planet", we need all the help we can get. Over-Population is a dirty Nazi lie to justify their desire for mass-murder. As the population increases, so does the standard of living and innovative new ideas that can restore planet Earth become more common. We need to increase populations and expand the number of saviors for planet Earth.
    Western politics, is the only one that realized Earth is dying. All others rape the earth with impunity. The concept of "Race to save the planet" is strickl;y a western one. All others are simply in it for the money.
     
  8. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    I must retire in the face of such insanity. The problem is worse than I had thought.
     
  9. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    The problem is servere and the insanity is comming from the left.

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  10. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Most of the earth is now, already, baron and desolated waste areas of ice, saltwater and sand.
    Species live in all these areas.

    Nor has any new species ever been shown coming into existence since the disaster struck.

    That doesn't mean it hasn't happened

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    Nor can any species evolve upwards under such difficult and hostile conditions because the greater complexity available before the disaster is necessary for developing the most complex life.

    And this is based on....?
    Where did the 'genetic complexity' originally come from then?
     
  11. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    "Most of the earth is now, already, baron and desolated waste areas of ice, saltwater and sand."
    Species that SURVIVED in all these areas are very few compared to the great diversity that once existed there. The fossil record shows this.

    Nor has any new species ever been shown coming into existence since the disaster struck. Since NO evidence for new species, evolution is taken entirely on faith, not science.

    Nor can any species evolve upwards under such difficult and hostile conditions because the greater complexity available before the disaster is necessary for developing the most complex life.
    This is based on the fact that only the simplest life exists (or survives) in the most hostile conditions.

    Where did the 'genetic complexity' originally come from then? It must have been Created by someone who is God.
     
  12. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Originally posted by Deist27
    "Most of the earth is now, already, baron and desolated waste areas of ice, saltwater and sand."
    Species that SURVIVED in all these areas are very few compared to the great diversity that once existed there. The fossil record shows this.

    The ocean is teeming with life, and we have no fossil record from the bottom of the ocean.

    Nor has any new species ever been shown coming into existence since the disaster struck.

    Humans maybe? Or do you claim they were around at the same time as the dinosaurs?

    Nor can any species evolve upwards under such difficult and hostile conditions because the greater complexity available before the disaster is necessary for developing the most complex life.

    Now you are just repeating yourself.

    This is based on the fact that only the simplest life exists (or survives) in the most hostile conditions.

    I'll disagree with that to. It could just be that the simplest life adapts faster then complex life.

    Where did the 'genetic complexity' originally come from then?
    It must have been Created by someone who is God.

    Simply attributing it to God is a way out without investigating any further. Why would God create species that he would then kill-off? I can just as easily say that God is ultimately responsible for 'Saving Planet Earth' and anything we do is meaningless in comparison.
     
  13. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    Most species that once lived in the ocean are now gone.

    The fossil record shows no life then different forms of life coming into existance (cambrian explosion). Sicne life is inter dependent on each other, they must have come into existance around the same time.

    This is based on the fact that only the simplest life exists (or survives) in the most hostile conditions If the complex life does not adapt fast it does not survive long enough to adapt at all.

    Where did the 'genetic complexity' originally come from then?
    It must have been Created by someone who is God. All scientific investigating leads to this conclusion.

    "Why would God create species that he would then kill-off?"
    What makes you thind He did?

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  14. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    I meant your insanity.
     
  15. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    The way to avoid insanity is by facing the facts. We live in a dying world not of human origin and God is good. Denial leads to insanity
     
  16. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    ersol reaches for the 'insane' stamp::
     
  17. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    and stamps it on her forhead
     
  18. fireguy_31 mors ante servitium Registered Senior Member

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    Your assertions, albeit based purely on non-emperical evidence, resonate the popular capitalist ideology that technology will save us all from environmental catastrophes that, peculiarly enough, have been caused -- in part -- by technological advancements that should have been regulated with more fervor.

    I do not question your conviction to the cornucopian view but, I will suggest to you that to properly and correctly convince yourself of anything all aspects of the issue must be entertained and scruitinized equally. I detect, in your comments, a hint of cynacism towards anything lest it is shrouded in capitalistic views.. This suggests to me you have not scruitinized and/or entertained all aspects of the debate EQUALLY!!

    Answers to complex issues, such as our environment, are not exclusive to one ideology. Mankind, better yet our world, deserves more.

    Keep an open mind and properly informed Diest.

    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Einstein

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  19. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    Your assertions, resonates with Nation Socialism the popular Nazi ideology of the left. Technology offers hope for restoring a dying planet which is dying from NATURAL causes. Nazi myth such as the green house effect and leaving old growth forest alone to burn down in huge forest fires shows the danger involved with leaving things up to nature.

    Capitalistism is in defience of your socialism and the horrors of the holocausts it brings. This proves to me you have not scruitinized all aspects of the debate EQUALLY!!

    Answers to complex issues, such as our environment, ARE exclusive to one ideology. Saving the earth, a dying planet, polutin etc came only from this one ideology. All others claim its all natural what happens in nature.

    Keep an open mind and be properly informed Nazi.

    Blaming humans can never solve the problem

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  20. fireguy_31 mors ante servitium Registered Senior Member

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    LOL!

    Um, LOL, okay!
     
  21. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    i didn't find any scientific paper stating that god was responsible for genetic complexity.

    maybe you were wrong
     
  22. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    Re: LOL!

    Quite, and a good quote from Einstein earlier. Unfortunately it looks like Deist has a bright future in politics.
     
  23. Deist27 Registered Senior Member

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    You will never find any scientfic paper verifying that Someone must have created life on Earth. That's because acedemia is controlled by narrow minded atheist who hate God. All papers explaining the reality about life on Earth are buried and suppressed. :bugeye:
     

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