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  1. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Surely anals? At least for the last item.

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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Hmm, not really. I have some recurring themes in my dreams, as I suppose we all do. I have a routine form of pseudo-nightmare in which there is a water leak in the house that ends up cascading water everywhere. I have, really quite often, a dream in which my wife comes back into my life, even though I know, within the dream, that she is dead and I ask her how she managed to negotiate that. (I think this kind of experience may be common and account for some reports of ghosts, by the way.) Some of these involve us having two houses and selling one of them. And I have had one or two memorable and symbolic dreams. But mostly they are just junk, I think. Also, I get a certain amount of back trouble, enough to make me value a good night's sleep, so I'm reluctant to do anything to disturb my rest.
     
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  5. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I don’t think any dreams are “junk,” but there are definitely ones that stand out as more memorable than others. Supposedly, dreams about houses flooding have to do with new beginnings, or that something that has been quite terrible is coming to an end.

    I don’t put a lot of stock in dream interpretations but on occasion, they’re pretty spot on.
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and say that dreams are just housecleaning for your brain and mean very little that you don't know already.

    For example, everyone has some daily stress or maybe you feel like you don't have as much control over things as you would like, etc. These are human feelings that apply to most people at some time.

    Of course sometimes you have a great day scuba diving (for example) and surprise...you dream about scuba diving that night as well.

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    Otherwise there are certain common dreams that relate to lack of control. Wegs mentions keys, many people, including me, sometimes have a frustrating recurring dream along the lines of you are in a building and you are on your way out of the building and for some reason you just never quite make it out of the building.

    It doesn't have to be a building but it's just mild frustration. You could just be mowing the lawn and you never seem to quite be able to get to the end of the lawn.

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    I can't say for sure but when I've on vacation in Hawaii and I've had a few very relaxing days, I don't think I ever had any of those boring but frustrating dreams.

    It might be interesting to write down your dreams but I'm not particularly interested in doing so as I think many are just reactions to mild levels of stress. If you have a lot of stress (family member just died, or whatever) then maybe that's when the dreams are more troublesome, the "bad dream".

    You probably have very pleasant dreams on vacation but you don't remember those because they are pleasant. I don't think any life secrets are being revealing in dreams but that's just my take on it.

    I could be wrong. Maybe dreams are how the ghosts communicate with us.

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  8. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    When I was working, I had a recurring dream about not being able to find my shoes. "If I find them right now, I can still catch my bus." --> "If I find them right now, I can take a cab and get there on time." --> If I find them right now, I won't be VERY late." --> "They've already started without me."

    Now that I'm retired, I dream about having to go to the bathroom but they're all occupied or filthy.
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Your dreams??

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  10. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Ya know, I think you’re onto something regarding not remembering dreams when life’s a bit less hectic, like say on vacation. I took a few months off last year and my dreams for the most part were pleasant and/or I didn’t remember them the next morning…at all.

    Interesting that others here dream about not reaching a destination or in my case, dropping keys and never making it to where I’m supposed to be going. Trying to get somewhere but not quite making it seems to be more common than I thought.
     
  11. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I had one dream, around the time I got married, which I did late in life at the age of 47, which was quite heavily symbolic. But most are pretty random. The water thing is some kind of anxiety, obviously, as it ruins the house and I'm powerless to stop it. But I'm buggered if I know what anxiety it symbolises, if any.

    The dreams in which my wife gets leave (it's never clear who from) to come back and see me, even though dead, are not disturbing at all. They seem very matter-of-fact at the time (in the last one, I started worrying about how to get her a passport, seeing as she was dead

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    ), though when I wake up it takes me a few seconds to collect my wits and remember that actually she has not come back, after all. It's been almost 6 years now and I still get them every couple of months or so. I wonder how common this is.
     
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  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    My take is that it's a general symbol of anxiety - not one thing. Your mind is grappling with stressors, and this is the core symbol that matches with you under stress.

    One might risk going even further to suggest that - since one's mind can't hold an unlimited number of memories in detail, it's choosing to store "prototypes" instead: "Here's an emotional feeling that seems to stand in for a bunch of specific experiences. Whenever we're feeling a certain way, lets just pull this one out."
     
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  13. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe it symbolizes your anxiety over troll threads in the hard science section of SF.

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    I'm sorry for your loss, exchemist.

    I've read that dreaming about our deceased loved ones is very common, as we're at our most vulnerable when we're asleep, and perhaps more open to whatever messages we can decipher from the dream.
     
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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Without a doubt. It's the conscious mind that jumps on and quashes unpleasant thoughts and truths. When the consciousness is dormant, the unconscious is free to explore such things without getting judged.
     
  15. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Haha, I don't worry about trolls on websites, thank goodness. The strange thing about dreams involving my wife is that, unlike the others I occasionally have involving dead relatives (my mother, my grandparents, etc), in these I am aware she is dead, but has nevertheless come back - and we talk about it!

    I don't find these the least bit upsetting - though there is a moment of disappointment when I wake up and come to my senses. But I can see how, in more impressionable individuals, an idea could take hold that such dreams are some kind of real communication from beyond the grave.
     
  16. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I can see that, too. Many people believe they've been ''visited'' by passed away loved ones in their dreams, but if it brings a sense of peace and comfort as they mourn, I suppose there's no harm in that. Personally, I think it could be part of the grieving process.
     
  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    "Grieving", I don't know. I wouldn't call it that: it's too matter-of-fact, as an experience. But I suppose if someone has been a crucial part of your life for a long time and then they are gone, it leaves a gap that your psyche may try to fill.
     
  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    My dreams in the last few years have been of a Science Fiction nature

    Before I could normally link portions of a dream to recent events. Now I dream very odd dreams not Science Fiction and nothing I can relate to

    Last night my dream contained the following
    • a retirement village where female actresses lived
    • each actress had a vintage car in the lounge
    • There was a movement for them to have a race
    • one of the actresses ex husband appears with his new much younger wife
    That's about all I remember

    The night before
    • I was on a larger pathway which stretch out into the sea
    • There was a number of manhole covers
    • I lifted open one
    • fairly deep down was a long line of females stretching back to into the section of the tunnel / pathway under the sea
    • the section going towards the shore had steps coming to the surface with a manhole cover at the top
    • I went to that cover and removed it
    • the women started to come out with the first one holding my hand as we walked towards the shore
    I know there was more but memory refuses to let me see it

    Lets see what tonight brings

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  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Michael345 has a common dream theme of a buffet of women for the picking...

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    Thanks for the accounts.I wonder whether there are people whose brain mixes up dreams/the unconscious and the awake state,

    I think I have heard this to be fairly common.

    Certainly in my my student ,cannabis intoxicated days this was my normal routine.

    I think we need the subconcious to communicate with the conscious in an ongoing fashion but perhaps we can get the equivalent of a hiatus hernia ? (consciousness reflux?)
     
  21. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    You only "dream" (the one you can remember) when you are about to awake.

    When you are not about to awake, you also dream but you will not remember it.

    Why do you dream ?
    Because the brain maintain the result of the perception at the lateral location of the brain.

    Without any input (when you sleep the inputs are slowed down) the "reality" is not coming from the input coming from the real world (what you see, what you hear, what you sense), but instead replaced by the equivalent portions of the brain that do generaly the "perception" of the inputs.
    When awaken, perhaps you dident noticed it but... you dont see, you dont hear and you dont sense. You are not a robot. You add, without being conscious of it, the input to the place where perception (depending of the kind) is processed, and from this place you become aware of the input.
    You can test it by yourself : Close your eyes shortly and you remain conscious of the things that are around you : It is stored in your brain (short or long memory here maters)
     
  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Not in last nights dream

    First part

    Was in a school and opened a drawer in which there were pencils, single layer, all round pencils, tan wooden perfectly sharpened

    Cut to next segment

    With a companion walking up a mountain to meet with a commander and take instructions from him as to how to conduct the fighting I was engaged in

    Found the commander but the nurse woke me up before I received his orders

    common dream theme of a buffet of women for the picking

    almost correct except currently have 4 ladies in Bali (4 is not a buffet, perhaps a snack) who are chasing me

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  23. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Was it time for your sleeping pill?
     

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