sciforums political compass 2020

Discussion in 'Politics' started by James R, Feb 27, 2021.

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Where are you on the Political Compass? (Take the test in the opening post before answering.)

Poll closed Mar 27, 2021.
  1. Left Libertarian (bottom left quadrant)

    8 vote(s)
    66.7%
  2. Left Authoritarian (top left quadrant)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Right Libertarian (bottom right quadrant)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Right Authoritarian (top right quadrant)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Near the centre (within four squares horizontally and vertically, from the centre)

    3 vote(s)
    25.0%
  6. Near one outer edge of the diagram (within 4 small squares of just one edge, not two).

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  7. Near one corner of the diagram (within four small squares of a corner, horizontally and vertically)

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  8. On one of the black-line axes of the diagram.

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  9. I'm not taking the test and/or not answering the poll. Just show me the results.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Where do you stand on the Political Compass?

    We haven't done this for a while on sciforums. Take the quiz and post your results (if you want to).

    Also, please answer the thread poll after you've taken the test. Select all options that apply to you.

    The test is here:

    https://www.politicalcompass.org/
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    My results:
    Economic Left/Right: -7.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.03
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The questions are so loaded and there is no answer for "neither" or "indifferent" that the results can't be meaningful. I didn't even complete the test.
     
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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    Economic Left/Right: -8.0
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.72
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    Time to break out the tie dye..
     
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  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Did you read the introduction?

    Before taking the test: Please note that this isn’t a survey, and these aren’t questions. They’re propositions. To question the logic of individual ones that irritate you is to miss the point. Some propositions are extreme, and some are moderate. That’s how we can show you whether you lean towards extremism or moderation on the Compass. Your responses should not be overthought. Some of them are intentionally vague. Their purpose is to trigger reactions in the mind, measuring feelings and prejudices rather than detailed opinions on policy.
    There is no "neither" option when you are asked whether you agree or disagree with a proposition. Either you agree with it or you disagree.

    I guess it's possible that you don't know what you think, or you don't understand the propositions, in which case you're probably not qualified to take the test anyway.
     
  10. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Oh not this one again.

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    The trouble with it is that it is done from point of view of US politics, in which anyone slightly to the left of Genghis Khan comes out as "liberal", by which they mean left wing, rather than, er, liberal.

    I'm not doing this.
     
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  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I don't know why so many people around here are getting snarky whenever they see a thread they don't want to participate in. Nothing here is compulsory. If you don't want to participate in a thread, don't participate. Simple! No need to make a big song and dance about it.
     
  12. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, I'm probably just not qualified to take the test...

    "If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations"

    I can agree that economics primarily serves humanity or the interests of Trans-national corporations?

    All economics systems try to be beneficial for their populations and they have to be beneficial for the corporations or there would be no corporations.

    This is not a question that one should be able to agree or disagree with.
     
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  13. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    There's also no need to get all whiney or controlling about a thread but people are funny like that.
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Economic Left/Right: -5.13
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77


    But I'm highly visual, so:

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    Caveats: I am
    - both generally apolitical and politically 'naive',
    - not American.


    But I know I'm strongly Liberal (Democrat, to you Americans).
     
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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yet I found this feedback useful:

    "...it is done from point of view of US politics, in which anyone slightly to the left of Genghis Khan comes out as "liberal", by which they mean left wing, rather than, er, liberal."

    It provides a good reminder/antidote for me that any such labeling is fundamentally inaccurate.
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    My chart for what it's worth...

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  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I think we might have a lot of "knee jerk" decision makers in here

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    Thoughtful, nuanced thinking would tend to cluster around the center.
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    so a quick decision is a morally wrong decision ?
    how does deeper thinking change the core moral aspect of 1 question ?
    give an example[copy n paste 1 of the questions you think is un-answerable because you think it does not give the ability to give a precise ideological premise as an absolute principal?]
    (
    its hard to call it a survey or test as its a bit of both)

    death penalty question ?
    gay adoption question ?
    sterilization question ?(if the children are going to be born with horrific mutations & will suffer terribly?)
    [
    how does that conflict with your moral political ideology around how people should be managed by the state with laws guns & hospitals]

    ...(what is a sociopath?[rhetorical personal opinion])
    American liberal is borderline sociopath dressed in church robes
    different from an intellectual moral liberal
    the term "liberal" is applied by Americans as a position of self entitlement of power over others, & as a defense, NOT as a right to others freedoms.
    only a right to their own ability to say no to laws.

    fundamentally very different people morally, socially & culturally

    this is a personality test using the framework of one of the 1st basic plotting managerial tests used for determining employees suitability to be promoted to management.

    it dates back to the mid 80s
    i was shown this when it came out into the heart of the corporate world prior to its global mainstream release.
    {([my personal opinion is])}
    big corporations, probably government departments included, (during the late 80s & into the mid 90s)used this to block any left leaning employees from promotions & probably also to target homosexuals.

    the difference is some PR person has orientated the question format to cater directly to American conflicting social moral concepts.

    as Dave says
    Ghengis Khan would score in the middle

    my result was halfway between james & bells
     
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  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Alternately, some people are clear about how they see their politics, whereas others may sit on the fence or answer inconsistently or naively, resulting in clustering near the centre.

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    That condescension door swings both ways.
     
  20. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, there are two sides to every argument.
     
  21. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say anything about a quick decision being a morally wrong decision.

    Deeper thinking allows more time for nuance. Someone is accused of murder so you say "kill him". More time would allow for the possibility that they aren't the murderer and that maybe the death penalty isn't the best choice in any event.

    I didn't say anything about gun laws and hospitals.
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i think a certain someone thinks they own that concept of thought
    its like a wall of candyfloss
    it may be capable of causing terrible high speed accidents when people drive into it when it is thrown up
    but its easy to poke holes in it where ever you like & when the rain starts, it washes away into nothing
    but it makes him feel good & powerful

    word games to try and change the subject
    simply post a question ?
    no you wont
    so your playing word games
    trying to play the fake libertarian moral principal of litigious self victimization
    copy n paste a question
    thats the number 1 thing
    copy n paste a question

    there is a HUGE difference between the political ideological concepts of immoral versus fascist
    where is the moral ideological core political policy ?
    how does "time" alter moral ideologies for core political policy in your opinion(as you have clearly stated here)?

    what you glaze over & in direct action oppose and present is
    that personal moral values should over ride social law & policy
    which is in fact anarchy or fascism in drag


    example = ?
    copy n paste a question
     
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  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well it wasn't really an argument you made; really just a slap down.
     

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