Self-sacrificing ants and medics

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by birch, Apr 7, 2018.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    It's just like a human raid/war and there are ant medics that determine who can be saved as well as the fallen who admit they can't be saved if they are mortally or too injured.

    Has anyone noticed how similar ants are to humans? they build shelters, have armies and guards at posts, farm, foragers (hunter/gatherers), form alliances etc. they network and make decisions logically, maybe even more logically/rationally than humans. more than any other species, this insect is most similar to human societies.

    why are ants so similar to humans in their social structure and how they build 'empires' and cities etc unlike mammals we are related to?
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sheer numbers.

    Ants are tiny and the local environment can support hundreds of thousands of them in a single colony.
    Humans are prolific, and, though the environment can't support them, they breed anyway.

    Regardless of how, both cases produce vast numbers of individuals.
    An apparently emergent property of vast populations is specialization and hierarchy.
     
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  5. Andrew256 Registered Senior Member

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    And this is another proof that peace is an unnatural state of society. Nature made almost every living organism to breed uncontrollably, to self organize in the systems and hierarchies of different complexities, and to consume other organisms/take away their resources, to support further uncontrollable breeding. It seems this behavior is rooted into every living cell since the moment of it's inception from the chaotic interactions between chemicals. A truly God's work! (what a bastard).

    Forgive me from going off topic.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Odd thing to say.

    Ants, for example, do not breed uncontrollably. If they did, they would bring about the destruction of their environment. But they don't. They only breed at a rate that is sustainable by their environment.

    Other than mankind, I can only think of one organism that bred uncontrollably: blue-green algae. They are the only other species as far as I know that bred so prolifically that they polluted the entire planet with their waste products, virtually wiping themselves out, and inadvertently bringing about the rise of oxygen-breathing forms.

    In the game of poisoning the Earth, mankind is an amateur. We are neither the first, nor the best, at destroying our own planet.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Nonsense. They breed as much as possible, and the environment dictates survival rates and food availability.
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    There are colonies of ants that cooperate with each other.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017...ants-review-sage-advice-ant-world-advantages/
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly my point.

    They do not breed uncontrollably (as Andrew256 asserted); they are kept in check by resources.
     

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