Should Theists Seek Psychotherapy?

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  1. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    high school. i'm 42.

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  3. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    High school means nothing to me, I can't equate it to anything I know.
    Basically it comes down to this:
    there is no possible mechanism by which it could take place, there is no possible medium by which it could be transmitted, there is no possible method of getting a signal from one brain to another that could not be detected by scientific instruments, there is no part of the brain (or body) that could transmit, or receive, such a signal.

    For a fuller discussion try pages 37-39 of Weinberg's Dreams of a final theory.
     
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  5. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    what if it's not of the flesh but of the spirit? a spirit to spirit communication?
     
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  7. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Spirit also is not known to exist.
    There is no evidence for it.
     
  8. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    well i would propose that the telepathic communication i've received is evidence of it.

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  9. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Since there's no proof (or evidence) of telepathy then it's rather shaky ground to use as "evidence" of the spirit.
    It's a circular argument.
     
  10. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    it works for me.
     
  11. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    And the troop of pink elephants in my bathroom works as proof of the inevitable return of Elvis for me.
    But my neighbours complain when I play the drums at 3 AM to keep the elephants' morale up. They get so sad waiting.
     
  12. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Dude! That's YOU making all that racket?!?!? You woke up my Dragonsuckle Cloudyboog! You know how cranky those things get? Especially since we spent all night pulling Jesus out of a quicksand trap in Narnia...
     
  13. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Well duh!
    You gotta awake for Elvis when he comes back!
    Don't sleep.
    Ever.
     
  14. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    *cyber finger*
     
  15. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Don't worry, I haven't slept in six weeks. I'm going for Lori's old record of INSANO-JUICE.
     
  16. Balerion Banned Banned

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    ...here? But...people might see!

    Well, alright then. I am a dashing bastard, after all...
     
  17. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    hideous. both of you.
     
  18. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, rational.
    You have no evidence other than your own internal experiences that what you're going through is real.
    And there are (as Enmos has said) simpler (and proven) explanations for it.
     
  19. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    enmos' explanation is that i'm mentally ill. so you're telling me that if you believe someone to be mentally ill, that your response is to make fun of them? i think THAT is mentally ill.
     
  20. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Since you deny it as a possibility I can only conclude that you're making your assertions for the fun of it.
    I merely pointed out that Enmos HAS given a simpler explanation, not that it actually applied.
    (Although granted, someone who is mentally ill, consistently denies it, and has such wonderfully vivid fantasies usually joins when I make fun: I've had many discussions with people in various wards. You should try it).
    Or would you like to discuss my drum-playing for the elephants?
    You assume I'm making fun?
     
  21. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    making this shit up for fun huh? stellar assertion, and lame-o response.
     
  22. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    So you ARE assuming.
    Hmm, what does that say about you?
    What assertion did I make?
     
  23. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    that i'm making this shit up for fun, or that i'm insane.

    now listen, i find it sad that some people out here are abusive. i think it's pretty obvious that i'm not making this stuff up for fun. getting made fun of and called mentally ill just because people don't want to believe in a spiritual realm isn't fun, it's actually pretty goddamn stupid, infantile behavior to have to deal with and respond to.

    i met a girl out here who claims to have been abducted by aliens many times throughout her life. i've never been abducted. i've never seen an alien or a ufo. i'm completely unfamiliar with the phenomenon. but i did not react to her claims by calling her insane or accusing her of being a liar. why? because that's close-minded, arrogant, and mean.
     
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