Should USA be allowed to have a military?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by lixluke, Jul 31, 2008.

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Should USA be allowed to have a military?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

    10 vote(s)
    20.4%
  1. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    I'm guessing then they will continue the Protectorate role for a 70 year period if they can get away with it, making Japan free to have a military circa 2015. (70 years based on how many years that are usually placed in regards to the sensitivity of a subjection. i.e. "Raising the Titanic" can't occur until all survivors are no more. Obviously 70 years is a number of "innocent" generations.) Although saying that Germany is reunited before that time period, why not Japan?
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Peaceful involvement? Do two world wars, a holocaust, death squads, support for oppressive regimes, the IMF/WB scams leading to starvation/poverty/armed conflict in underdeveloped [and previously colonised] economies, the current occupations of countries, and the fact that the UNSC is made up of the biggest arms dealers in the world count as peaceful involvement?


    Just because they don't call it an army doesn't mean they don't have one.
     
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  5. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    It could be managed better, but it's existence is not a privilege granted by others.
     
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  7. Guyute Senior Member Registered Senior Member

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    HAHAHA....The USA is the only military, lets be serious with oneself.


    -Guyute
     
  8. Vkothii Banned Banned

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    Well, obviously you've managed to figure out how to do this.
    What's the secret?
     
  9. Tyler Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly why we should only let China and Russia have huge armies. We wouldn't want America participating in another World War if a nation like Nazi Germany pops up again.

    Think of how much better the world would be today if the Americans hadn't been the imperialist scum they were from 1941-45.
     
  10. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    there is a general feeling that the japanese government shouldnt be trusted with an army and i agree.
     
  11. John99 Banned Banned

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    Look at Japan BEFORE WW2. Look at what they have given us SINCE WW2. IOWs, leave them alone.
     
  12. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    im not going to get into this arguement again but the power structure in japan didnt change much after ww2
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No, we should let the US have their idea of democracy. And spread it galore. Manufactured news is good news.
     
  14. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    I live in America, but I think I would be very happy if somebody attacked the USA military, and put it out of its misery. The military protects USA interests which the interest the rich. Not the individual. The military will only prorect the best interest of the individual if doing so is in the best interest of the rich. All in all, the military is only conerned about the best interest of the rich.
     
  15. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, the UN was in place for neither World War.
     
  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    And this is relevant because?
     
  17. tim840 Registered Senior Member

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    Oh yes, that is a wonderful idea. Deprive a large and powerful nation of its military. That will certainly bring an end to all the world's problems, just like the Treaty of Versailles did by depriving the Germans of their Army.
     
  18. Echo3Romeo One man wolfpack Registered Senior Member

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    How old are you?
     
  19. MSSG Registered Member

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    Lexlike,

    Who would defend your right to free speech if not for the military? If you don't like the military you might want to look at the people we, as a free nation, elect to public office. Don't blame the men and women in uniform. They are there to serve a greater good, something they believe in. Without a military this nation would fall quickly! Think of a better question next time.
     
  20. Tht1Gy! Life, The universe, and e... Registered Senior Member

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    Oh come on people, what a bunch of horse shit. The US military doesn't defend america's freedom. It defends our access to resources. Also, I'm pretty sure the US constitution allows for a militia, for the purpose of defending the borders, NOT a standing army.

    Oh and by the way, the USArmy is the most invading army in the world. Even if you were to include the long defunct USSR Red Army. I think one would need to go all the way back to the Roman Empire to find a more aggressive military. And Romans didn't care, for the most part, how the conquered ran their country, as long as the "taxes" were paid.
     
  21. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    But with no military, there would be no one to fight for that right if it ever came under attack. During the Revolutionary War, our military had to fight the British for the rights we have today. What if a foreign country tried to invade and install its own government, and wipe out our rights? With no military, who would defend our freedoms? So just because they might not currently be fighting for our freedom, doesn't mean it's not a possibility.

    Every country has the right to protect itself. Nobody has the authority to say another country is not allowed to have a military. This is an absurd question.
     
  22. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Not true. The military consists mostly of the children of the poorest of Americans who's parents could not afford to send them to college. That is why most serve in the military so they can get educational benefits when they leave the service. Those that control the military are very much into protecting the interests of the rich. But most of those that serve in the American military are just interested in putting bread on the table.
     
  23. Aerika Registered Senior Member

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    Demilitarizing the world sounds good in theory but world history suggests it isn't prudent. And to demilitarize the US would require a major war so that seems counter-productive to the intent.

    I think what we need is a stronger UN or equivalent. When Iraq invaded Kuwait, most of the world participated in Kuwait's liberation. When the US invaded Iraq, most of the world objected but took no action.
     

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