Should we take Ray Comfort Serious? If no, what not?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Feb 28, 2020.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I like it too, but it was from the article. It appears I have thankfully gotten to Jan somewhat as he has apparently ignored a few of my relevant posts that have highlighted his silly fanatical addiction.
    After going back over a few of his threads, it appears he is/was one of those drug infused Hari Krisna mob, that we would see in the 80's clanging their tambourines, chanting Hari hari hari! and with the long flowing orange robe......To be avoided as much as possible.....which brings me to another tale Alex....
    I was home alone one weekend when I noticed a couple of well dressed AoG I think, or perhaps seventh day adventists, not 100% sure. Anyway at that time I did have my mate with me, my Rottweiler dog named Rocky. Not wanting them to disturb me watching the footy, I place Rocky just outside the front door. After ten minutes or so, the couple reached my gate and started to open it to gain access. Rocky stood up and gave one of his enormous barks, Woof!!..

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    It stopped them in their tracks! They conversed for a minute or so and then decided to gingerly step back outside and close the gate.
    I let Rocky back inside again, and he assumed his previous position at my feet and continued to lick out my toe jam.

    PS: Jan: please don't take this as a threat to your person. I'm simply reiterating how I got rid of a couple of similar fools and deniers of science. And Rocky anyway was actually a big sook!

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    What a totally confusing, contradictory, incorrect passage of print, if there ever was!
    Hey Jan, is that above summation correct? You know, about the drug infused Hari Krisna?
    Or are you a party to some even more weird, radical, alternative, nonsensical style?
     
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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    *shakes head*
    Poor you Paddo!
    You’re not right in the head Paddo.
    Don’t worry Paddo!
    I won’t.
    This is pitiful.
    Alex. You speak highly of this dude.
    Why?

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  5. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Are you obsessed with me James?

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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Keep shaking matey! I believe I'm pretty close to the mark, otherwise you would be more forthcoming with what you are trying to say, and less of the pretentious nonsense, infested with your unsupported anti science nonsense.

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    Pretty substantial evidence that I have actually hit the nail on the head!
    Probably because Alex is a good judge of character, and like me, was also once caught up in the web of myth, lies and deception when accepting some magical spaghetti monster.Of course I was only a kid then.
    Now Jan, what you should think about doing, is actually withdraw yourself from this self flagellation, with near every post you post, and getting yourself further and further into the web of sillyness and craziness with all this gullible nonsense you preach.

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  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    This too dumb to respond to.
    Sorry mate.
    Your entitled to think that.
    I can see how it is you believe darwinism is a scientific fact.
    You just simply accept it, then think it’s the truth.
    I can only giggle at your attempt to psychoanalyse me.
    *Heads up*
    You’re both still caught up.

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    The problem is in your head.
    You’re prepared to accept anything, as long as it’s not God.
    You’re like a headstrong teen who pretends he hates his dad, and acts rebellious.
    Only to find that when he grows up, he will realises what a fool he was.
    He was really loved his dad all along.
    When you grow up, you’ll look back and laugh at yourself.
    You’d like that because you’d have no one reminding you of your silly notion that doggy types can turn into whales. Thinking that there is actual evidence that backs it up.
    It’s quite simple, the emporer is stark-bollock naked.
    The links you posted simply confirm that.
    They was hilarious.
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Jan keeps forgetting that as a creationist who rejects science, he is in a small, ever shrinking group of ignorant people who somehow believe they represent everyone else. And, that's what's really hilarious.

    In other words, we accept reality and you don't.
     
  11. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    No I can't you win you crazy scientist you.
    Why didn't you say so earlier.
    You science fanatic, don't you know there is more to the world than science?
    Oh I can..I know you could not have a crockaduck any philosophy that says something like that, can both agree, is loopy. Crockaduck!!! What were those scientists thinking. I don't know why you stand up for them and claim you can't avoid science ..of course you can just open your Bible and get away from all this scientific nonsense.
    How could I have been so wrong?..no worries it's not important...to err is human.
    You are very generous to take it so well Jan... no wonder everyone looks up to you.
    I am not calling Ray a con man..not for a moment..if you look at what I said you will see that I said he has qualities that you do find in con man. I have passed no judgement on Ray and certainly have not said he is a con man.
    But I didn't make it if you read what I actually said.
    You have gone off half cocked..Ray unfortunately has certain qualities that can be noticed in con men that does not mean he is a con man and you should not think of him that way. You are not thinking clearly here Jan ...but I forgive you.
    Now that I have cleared up your concerns you can feel happy that your expectations are back up there...
    Give me just one reason why not.
    Too late I took it as a compliment..thanks.

    Alex
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Now I understand why he can't avoid science...living the dream.

    How can we match Jan when he has that sort of learning to call upon.

    Alex
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I speak highly of everyone...Paddo, you Ray... everyone deserves respect.
    Alex
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    We must all bow down at his feet, and beg forgiveness and ask that our evil thoughts be banished...mea culpa!!mea maxima culpa!

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    !. [sorry, that's about the limit of the latin I remember from my Altar boy days.

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    I may take advice of the previous article I posted re taking on Idiot creationists in any debate as foolish, due to their obvious hair-brained extremism and fanaticism.
    Suffice to say to any creationist or IDer, that they will wake up tomorrow and the theory of the evolution of life, as well as Abiogenesis, will still be concrete and firm as facts, and that they need to accept that there is/will be no afterlife, no hell, no heaven, just plain old dead, "remember man that thou art dust, and unto dust thou shalt return" as the old priest would say on Ash Wednesday.
    Or I prefer as the greatest educator of the 20th century imo said [Carl Sagan] , "we are all born in the belly of stars" we are simply all star dust...that's the fact, that's the truth. My apologies to our frustrated one for spoiling his dreams and his self protected warm inner fuzzy feeling, that the myth of any afterlife has given him.
     
  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Jan...you are into science...can you explain life, how it got here, and the sheer diversity?
    Alex
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Alex! I have a busy Sunday ahead
    Good question Alex!! I must be off so I'l let you handle this creationist any way you want. Not sure though how many more corners he can back himself into...most rooms only have four and I think he has used them all.

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    I'm off seeya!!
     
  17. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    It's our duty to carry the banner of truth and although these productive discussions don't seem to do much I am firstly confident that we help Jan get closer to enlightenment and secondly that passers by may see the value of looking into the history of religion and working out how the myth evolved from a casual curiosity as to where the Sun went at night into a system of political control and money making machine that preys upon simple folk who are taken advantage of because they want to be good.

    I think in our way , you me and indeed Jan expose the hypocrisy of those who claim to follow the teaching of JC yet do the opposite indulging in greed and trickery.

    I am certain that the teaching of JC are valid to some degree but recognise they were made up by the Romans to maintain political control.
    It is a pity that it is all attached to a myth..it is a pity it is used to create guilt and fear.
    It is a pity that it promotes superstition over education and science.
    It is like a house that badly needs renovation where the only sensible choice is to knock it down and just build a better house using current technique and materials...
    Alex
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    You have a great day, avoid crowds, ....
    Alex
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I don't wish to be cruel Jan but when you grow up figuratively speaking you may wonder how you were taken in by these myths and lies...it will happen.. when it does you can remind yourself that you were conned by the best con in history and that you were not alone.
    You were manipulated by fear and mystery, by hope, in fact it was your decency that left you vulnerable to such an evil stealing of your innocence.
    Alex
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Copycat.
    I’ve already grown up, figuratively speaking.
    “Manipulated by fear and mystery, by hope”

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    That’s deep. In a darwinist type of way.
     
  21. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Good advice!
     
  22. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    God did it!
     
  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    It shouldn’t be about competition. But...
    I did.
    Yes.
    Good lad.
    As above.
    Thanks sport.
    You also said...
    “He is a nice guy but I can see why some folk resort to calling him a con man.”
    Sorry in advance for being so forward, but it’s important in order to get the point across.

    If I said of you, ““He is a nice guy but I can see why some folk resort to calling him a peodofile.”. I bet you wouldn’t accept that.

    Of course I’m not making any such assumption, but you get my drift.
    You’re the one who brought it up.
    It still is what it is.
    You simply chose to accept it as such.
     

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