Skeptic finds 4 year Bigfoot project "intriguing"

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  1. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    There is a problem if the material is bad, in which case there's no primer hybridization. I recall something about the "Starchild" - a Mesoamerican skull with severe hydrocephaly - that was called 'alien' for a long time. The nuclear DNA was unusable due to age, but the mtDNA had survived - this is normal, since mtDNA is smaller than genomic and more stable in that sense - so the owners took to insisting that the 'starchild' had a human mother since mtDNA is passed on maternally. Negative evidence was turned into oblique positive evidence - lacking only the point that with a human mother, you'd still be able to pull out the maternal (human) nuclear haplotype.

    Unless Alien Dad's haplotype was so possessive about Starchild's mom's DNA that it bound it up with weird bonding patterns that prevented cDNA hybridization. Could be; aliens do seem to have that thing about human womenfolk.

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    Er... uh, not that I, personally, would know anything about that. I have kidnapped none of your womenfolk and I stand by that sketchy assertion.
     
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  3. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    One of the people is named Ketchum?

    There's gotta be a Pokémon reference there somewhere...
     
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  5. Bells Staff Member

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    I just worry about Matilda, to be honest.

    And I have to admit, I am finding a lot of entertainment on Melba's website.

    Especially the parts that declare bigfoot is a human hybrid because the DNA samples are human. Poor Matilda, she will be devastated.

    Comedy gold!
     
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  7. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    This entire thread is comedy gold... there has not been one iota of hard evidence that anything being sighted is a Bigfoot, or anything other than an elaborate hoax.
     
  8. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    But... but... BOOBS!

    Big, hairy, double-D's have to count for something, right?
     
  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing comical in this thread are the farcical attempts to explain away the events described in the OP---ranging from rock-throwing bears, possums, wild monkeys, and sea otters, to feral pranksters and money-grubbing opportunistic landowners. There comes a point where I just have to stop and wonder, do these people really even hear themselves? Or has the thrill of being part of a heckling gang made them temporarily lose all sense of what is rational? Surely that explains it..
     
  10. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Still waiting for that proof, M.R.

    Go find a Bigfoot burial site and start digging. The only thing you're digging at the moment is a hole for yourself.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Already posted the evidence. Consult thread for details...
     
  12. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. Not good enough.

    If your evidence was real then Bigfoot would be an accepted fact. It's not.
     
  13. Bells Staff Member

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    And you have come full circle from one dodgy study to another dodgy study by a discredited veterinarian who self published her appalling study which claimed that because the hair samples they tested were human, so bigfoot must be a human hybrid, and then claimed it was published in a journal that does not even exist and who is involved in yet another dodgy study.. You have gone from primitive bigfoot that throws rocks and uses rocks as tools to break nuts, to a study by Ketchum who claims that they are so advanced, they are braiding hose manes, carving stick figures in trees and making art by leaving feathers on the ground and bending saplings. So which is it? Is bigfoot primitive, rock throwing still using a large rock to break open a nut? Or is it the delicate human that is into braiding, wood carvings and making sculptures?

    The animals we provide actual evidence for all did what you claimed bigfoot did. Claims of which were wholly unsupported and relied solely on the words of people who designed a study with the specific intent of proving bigfoot - not to mention there was nothing in that study to discount anything else that could have done what they were claiming and even contained one episode where a guy said he saw a bear, but then said it must have been bigfoot because they were there searching for bigfoot.

    They failed to eliminate everything else and instead, jumped immediately to bigfoot.

    Not content with that farce, you then claimed and provided accounts of people who apparently saw bigfoot burying other bigfoot, but they are incapable of providing a single hair sample, bone or skin sample.
     
  14. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Sadly, if you would only take a drop of your own advice, you would realize how absolutely absurd, not to mention utterly mad, you sound... your claims have less substance than Campbells chicken broth and even less "evidence" - blurry pictures and supposed eye-witness testimony from eye-witnesses that don't, apparently, have the intellectual fortitude to go and grab a sample from a supposedly buried bigfoot...

    Think about it - it's TOO convenient that despite all these supposed sightings, NOBODY can get close enough to snag a hair, or to provide an up-close picture...

    No, you haven't provided any evidence that would stand up in anything resembling an intellectual discussion, much less a court room.
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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  16. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    This is being intentionally dishonest... the argument is not an argumentum ad populum... if anything, your insistence that "so many people have seen it, it must be real" is the fallacious appeal to popularity...

    Literally speaking, what Magical Realist is doing can be summed up thusly:

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    Look, a short video of a blue Pegasus eating pancakes! I can see it happening, so it must be real!
     
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  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! How would YOU crack nuts surviving in the woods? Why is cracking nuts with a rock or throwing rocks incompatible with artistic crafting?

    No they didn't. Bears and possums don't throw rocks at fifty yards. Wild monkeys and sea otters don't live in Oklahoma. And neither bang on trees with sticks. So they explain nothing and only show a deplorable lack of anything to argue on your part.

    Dismissing someone's research because they believe Bigfoot exists is absurd. There is absolutely no logical connection between someone who spends so much time searching for this creature and faking their own results. None. Your mere claims that their results are invalid are thus baseless and not even plausible.

    Wrong. A quick review of the events of those 4 years taken together immediately eliminates all the animals you have ridiculously suggested were doing it. Here they are again:

    "Rock throwing incidents (over 1000)
    Wood knocking (sometimes rhythmic, responsive or mimicking)
    Metallic noise (use of rocks or hard objects on metallic objects)
    Sounds of movement through vegetation and bipedal footfalls
    Banging on the structure walls during the night
    Footprints
    Strong smell (musky, wet horse scent)
    Damaged trees (felled dead trees, broken dead or green limbs beyond natural breakage)
    Vocalizations (huffs, grunts, whistles, growls, screams and chattering)
    Indeterminate hair and blood sample
    Signatures from thermal cameras and reports of eyeshine
    Brief sightings of reddish brown to black various sized animals
    One occasion of physical intrusion into a window"
     
  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No it isn't. Appeal to popularity is "so many people BELIEVE it, it must be real."
     
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    I don't believe a single thing these bigfoot fools are saying. If they had the slightest idea what they were doing they would focus on DNA. So far nothing.
     
  20. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    So you are saying that these people claiming to have seen bigfoot don't believe it is bigfoot?

    I would use a nutcracker... because I go to the woods prepared. Duh.

    It is interesting that these people were apparently equipped with a laser rangefinder to find the distance Bigfoot was throwing rocks, yet couldn't get a single decent picture, nor a sample of hair or other material.

    WHERE ARE THE SAMPLES MR?

    Why has nobody brought one back, if these things exist?
     
  21. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Doesn't matter since I never appealed to their belief in Bigfoot to begin with. Appeal to popularity once again is saying that because most people believe in something, it must be true. I've never made such a claim.
     
  22. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Yet you're the one who believes in Bigfoot. And ghosts. And flying saucers.

    Why is that?
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, for one reason, look at all the attention it gets him! Some people are into that.
     
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