Slavery. Is it time to pay the money back?

Ethnic groups: white (of which English 83.6%, Scottish 8.6%, Welsh 4.9%, Northern Irish 2.9%) 92.1%, black 2%, Indian 1.8%, Pakistani 1.3%, mixed 1.2%, other 1.6% (2001 census)

 

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If "people" want to stay in "Africa" I don't care.

People should never be "taken" from anywhere.

Are you really asking me why it would be better if people had never been inslaved?

 

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So why do the 3% bother you?

 

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I am bothered that the 3% commits alot of crime here.

 

The other 97% dont commit crime?

 

So what of all the times that the native peoples of Great Britain have been captured or enslaved by other countries. I mean we've had the French Ruling, The Vikings and The Romans. All involving persecution to an extent, should those people of England that are the descendants of raped slave girls and fearing clans also ask for money for what history has thrown at them?

In essense those that live today do not agree with those policies of old, this is proven by not just the abolishment of the slave trade but the continued policing of such trades being commited illegally. The Universal Declaration of Humans Rights was also founded to maintain that such slavery will never occur again, of course all this cost, it cost the lives of those that were slaves and that is where you should look to for remembering, to repay would mean that nothing would have been achieved.

 

In Washington State, blacks make up 23 percent of the inmate population in the state Department of Corrections, while constituting just 3.4 percent of the state population, state officials say.

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Nick:

Come now, Nick. It's not like you to feign obtuseness. Of course whites commit crime. But non-whites seem to commit a larger, disproportionate amount of the crime.

 

Actually since it is not like Europeans or Americans went over and captured slaves, I say tough shit. The African tribes were preying on each other for slaves LONG before Europeans and Americans entered the scene. Hell, they still have slavery. We did not prey on them one damn bit. Slaves were offered freely as part of trade for Rum among other things. Those nations that sold slaves already had their recompense and since EVERY tribe did it at some point, none of them have the right to be boitching.

 

Pay attention next time in Wolrd historyy class, I know you have the brain to absorb the knowledge. Slavery existed in Africa before there were Romons. Hell even before their were Pharoahs. And the best rule of thumb in business is minimize expenditures. trading lives for slaves is expensive, trading baubles and liquor...much cheaper.

Are you kidding me? Your the one looking a bit silly to the world. Those tribes captured slaves and SOLD them for goods. Even if the traders had not bought them the people still would have been slaves. Quite a bit of Africa still does this. yes we took advantage of the goods offered,

Me personally, I would never trade a person for rum, but that is besides the point, someone did and they weren't forced to.


I'm not defending the actions of anyone in the situation. I'm just saying that there is no reason to punish people today for what wasn't even a crime when it happened. Yes it was morally wrong, but it wasn't illegal.

 

Oy vey, the stupidity of your comments is astounding.. Actually the traders in question took the slaves and sold them on market. I would suppose a few buyers set the slaves free, but it matters little at this point. For the slaves it was slavery in that tribe or slavery in another country. Once they were captured by the slave trading tribe they were pretty much screwed.

As for the trading that happened in this country, yes, in our infancy we had slave trading. However that was abolished long ago. Same cannot be said for a good deal of Africa and the Middle East.

 

I may have been a bit out in my estimation that the money owing is $3 Trillion. In 2001 it was estimated at $8 Trillion. Human beings were the oil of their day. Their muscle strength powered everything.

 

James:

Can you demonstrate that the crime rate disparity between blacks and non-blacks is solely due to 'racial profiling'?

 

Maybe someone has already said this:

Britain gained from slavery, but so has almost every country in the world.

However, Britain was almost singularly responsible (directly and indirectly) for ending slavery around the world.

 

Perhaps someone can actually give a decent reason why slavery is wrong.

Maybe even tell us whose fault slavery is?

 

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