Some facts about guns in the US

It was you who mentioned my supposed penis, in spite of me never stating my gender, which lends credibility to my hypothesis about feminists suffering penis envy. If you want to dispute Freud's theory of penis envy, then fine, go ahead. However, my sexual organs have no bearing on feminists' propensity to interpret inanimate objects as phallic objects.

Oh, I'm sure there are gun owners out there with their own little complexes. What's more disturbing is feminists' propensity to disarm men, while then applauding women who shoot their unarmed spouse. And you want me to believe that that's the behaviour of someone who wants to protect and preserve life? Do you think the audience is stupid?

 

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Which is sort of my point - right now, people... influential people, are so convinced that allowing ANY legislation to pass regarding firearms safety is "but the first step on a slippery slope to total disarmament" that they will block it at every turn, no matter how effective it may be, no matter the intention.

Caution is required, all I'm saying.

 

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Cut to the End Credits; We'll Skip the Climax

Get off your straw man. Or at least buy it dinner, first.

 

It's common for one's personal fantasy life to be disturbing at times. When the distinction between the events outside one's head and the events inside blurs, the normal next step is called a "reality check".

One of the realities here is that penis envy afflicts far more men than women, and is sublimated by men unto firearms as well as other weapons quite obviously, very frequently, with occasional ugly and damaging consequences to go with its comic aspects.

Another is that domestic violence involving guns is overwhelmingly perpetrated by men against women and children - anyone focusing on the welfare of women and children would be struck by the improvements in outcome possible through disarming the men in their lives.

And a third is the obvious circumstance that the gun banning folks here are trying to disarm everyone, not just men (in fact their common advocacy of restricting guns to trained police, military, and other overwhelmingly male occupational categories, is on its face an attempt to disarm women).

The problem is it isn't one. The extremist's position that any gun regulation is intended to launch a slide to gun banishment is supported by the fact that it is, visibly, so intended by vocal and dominant advocates of gun regulation.

 

Again, get off your straw man.

 

Again, you are wrong.

 

ice repeating a lie doesn't make it true. like all people against any sort of gun law that isn't do what ever you like. you rely on misinformation, strawmen, and flat out lies. I'm sorry you lack the ability to deal with the information that guns accelerate violence but your pathological inability to deal with it doesn't make your lies and refusal to deal with anything less than they are. again the only people talking about gun confiscation are the irresponsible gun owners like your self.

 

As long as you maintain that level of obliviousness to the nature of the rhetoric being slung around by the gun control folks currently dominating the public discourse, you will continue to be mystified by the intransigent opposition you meet from people who by all ordinary measures - polling, conversation, analysis of stance, etc - agree with your basic stance on governing private firearm possession.

They don't trust you guys. It's as simple as that. And they are basically correct in that assessment - you are oblivious to their concerns, contemptuous of their persons and knowledge, ignorant of their circumstances, and extraordinarily gullible when presented with spurious reasoning and incompetent analysis in this particular matter.

 

Envy is defined as wanting what someone else has. Given that men already possess a penis, I'd say that they can't envy others for what they themselves already have. You ought to look up the definition of a word *before* you start using it.

 

rifle facts:
With a 180 grain bullet, a 300 winchester magnum can drop a moose at 400 yards.
A 338 lapua with a 225 grain bullet can do it easily at 500 yards. (but, she kicks like a mule)

 

If you hit it in the leg?

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leg huh?
Wow that would be a lucky hit(and a bad idea).
One shot-one kill.
Aim just behind the shoulder and high up. Let the impact work for you. At 400 yards the bullet is still traveling at 2160 fps, and has 1865 foot pounds of energy. Aim high, though, figure on at least an 11 inch drop at that range.

 

You said a 180 grain 300 Win Mag could drop a moose at 400 yards and I asked you...if you hit it in the leg?

Well? Does the moose drop if it's hit in the leg?

ps: What do you think I winked at you for? It was a joke!

 

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ok let me put it to you this way. if i got pinto does that mean i can't have car envy of some dudes lambo?

 

what level of obliviousness? I'm sorry you have yet to shown anyone wants to confiscate and ban guns in totality. its a straw man arguement.

yes they don't trust us and we don't trust them. unlike their and yours paranoid delusions we have real reasons not to trust them. you know like the fact its a matter of rountine for a pro gun person to threaten some who disagrees with them? like this very thread when sculptor threatened me. again more lies because all your side has ice lies and personal attacks. they are incorrect. so lets deal with your bullshit one at a time

were not oblivious to their concerns but rational people have zero obligation to cave to extremists, real extremists not the fake ones you make up to protect the irresponsible and criminal action of others. I'm sorry but what are people who are tired of all the death supposed to do? just ignore the death toll and the blood on your hands?. contemptuous of their persons. why yes we show contempt toward bullies. and what knowledge do you speak of? is the "2.5 million" DGU's study that is universally panned as flawed. is lotts study that may not have ever taken place? you speak of knowledge they bring to the table but its all the same ancedotal evidence based on their emotional attachment to their guns. its not based on anything factual. ignorant of their circumstances? many gun owners are on my side so i think they understand the circumstances just fine. though i find someone whose side has shown its woefully ignorance on the amendment they rely most on talking about ignorance very amusing so thank you for that. and gullible with "spurious" reasoning and "incompetent" reasoning? you mean facts? that you don't the that the facts are against the holy gun doesn't mean were gullible. it means you can't handle the truth. but than again that's what you and yours hate most isn't it the idea you may actualy have to be responsible for your actions? you may be find with the thousands of lives on your hands personally if i were you i'd prefer to have mine clean.

 

Well, they do.

They have real reasons not to trust you.

Like this:

If you think your reasons for moving the goalposts with that "in totality" schtick are invisible to gun owning folks, you are mistaken. They aren't.

 

And Then There Was One

"We express our thanks for the amazing support from the community, as well as from everyone around the world that have been praying for us all through this tragic event.

"We also want to say a special thank you to all the amazing staff that have cared for our son and brother here in the pediatric intensive care unit at Harborview.

"Our family is overwhelmed with the love and care that has been provided to our loved one during this time and you all will forever hold a special place in our hearts.

"But we also ask that you respect our privacy at this time of our deep loss."

―Fryberg family​

Andrew Fryberg, 15, died Friday, November 7, 2014, of injuries sustained in the Marysville-Pilchuck High School shooting.

In our grief we should also remember that Nate Hatch, 15, survived the shooting. And on Thursday, the day before his friend and cousin finally succumbed to injuries, Nate Hatch came home.

This story will remain unfinished forever. There is no happy ending.
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Notes:

Javier, Lisa. "Marysville shooting victim Andrew Fryberg, 15, dies". KING 5. November 7, 2014. KING5.com. November 11, 2014. http://www.king5.com/story/news/loc...ille-shooting-victim-andrew-fryberg/18681377/

Associated Press and Jennifer Sullivan. "Marysville-Pilchuck shooting victim Nate Hatch returns home". The Seattle Times. November 6, 2014. Blogs.SeattleTimes.com. November 11, 2014. http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today...school-shooting-victim-shaylee-chuckulnaskit/

 

no they don't and eventualy your going to have to be honest and admit it.

i didn't move the goal poasts. its your own delusion claim. that you lack the integrity to even attempt to prove doesn't change the fact it your goalpost not mine. i haven't touched it. but its nice to know being called on your lies your still more intrested in attacking me rather than even attempting to defend your lies. so again why don't you try and prove your lies.