Split: SAM's intellectual dishonesty and poor moderation

Discussion in 'About the Members' started by (Q), Mar 25, 2008.

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  1. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Heh! I see what you mean by the keen observation.

    Today, sciforums, tomorrow the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH!!!
     
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  3. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    I don't recall saying you were funny....
     
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  5. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Well, you would think that she would have started her master plan by now, what being 35000+ posts in.
     
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  7. Bells Staff Member

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    And what exactly would that be? What personal bias does Sam have "overall"?

    Is she meant to ignore posts where members constantly flame and/or troll because responding to it or moderating those posts might show a form of bias? No. Has she ever moderated according to her religious beliefs, forcing others to curb their scientific posts because it might disagree with her personal faith? No.

    If you cannot refer to any actual action taken by her, then what bias are you accusing her of in how she moderates? Here is the thing with complaints about a moderator or a member for that matter. You need to be able to specifically pinpoint the issue, in this case bias and provide a link. No one has been able to do that so far. In the most recent protests, they have simply said she 'lied'.. no proof.. but because she took a different side in an argument and was able to back it up, she 'lied'. Simply typing "LIAR LIAR LIAR" without any proof is not only childish, it is also unproductive and will not lead to any resolution.

    So when people are told to back up their claims, they decide to spam her forum with posts that can only be considered flaming and baiting and when she deletes and then splits the thread and moves the posts to another thread, they try to say 'see.. she's lying'. In all seriousness, it is downright pitiful. That kind of behaviour does not make an intelligent community. It merely pinpoints the exact location of the village idiot(s).
     
  8. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    wow because shes a muslim she has an ajender or because shes a health proffessional she has an ajender? Which one are we discusing i forget

    EVERYONE has a bias, how could we POSSABLY pick mods for a section like politics without runing into SOMEONES political views

    What about ethics where religion and politics are inseprably tied?

    Of course your complaint isnt that she sees the world through HER view point but that she doesnt see it though YOURS
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    SAM has a lot of power and that power was acquired by far very fast, and that is what you all fear.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Plazma did not know me when he asked me to mod, in fact he came after me, so for him there was no fast.
     
  11. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry; I can't reply because it's too annoying to read through the misspelling...



    Overall, her bias is that of an inflexible theist.
    That would be apparent enough based upon a minuscule perusal of her posts.

    As for the rest of your comments, I don't disagree. I never said that this bias has played a role in any particular manifestation of her Moderation.

    I'm simply saying that the possibility itself should be eliminated.
     
  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    In debates on religion and mostly anti-Islam politics? Wow really?

    Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

     
  13. Kadark Banned Banned

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    Well, pretty much all but two moderators here are atheists. Should the possibility of their bias against the religious remain? Should we create a thread about them?

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    Anyway, there's only one moderator on this website I've truly had a problem with. Haven't seen him in a while, though...
     
  14. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Yup.
     
  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry; I can't reply because it's too annoying to read through the cheap fallacy.
     
  16. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Again, missing my point.

    We all have our bias', and that's fine.

    However, if one is to be a Moderator, it seems to me that this should be minimized. Given how difficult this would be, I would suggest that Moderators be limited strictly to moderating, and restricted from posting.
     
  17. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    lol

    All fallacies are earned.

    Nice try.


    QED
     
  18. Kadark Banned Banned

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    I agree somewhat. The moderators here are too involved with the posts/debates. Sometimes it's hard to differentiate between mod and user. Other forums I go to usually have a few slots reserved for mods who only moderate, and refrain from taking part in the discussions.

    Of course, some of the most interesting voices here are moderators, so silencing them would be no good.
     
  19. Bells Staff Member

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    So you are protesting because of ...... ?

    Indeed!

    I mean look at what she has done to us?

    Have you seen Ben's eyes?.. They even flash now? Hell, she turned Asguard into a short green man. Tiassa has been driven to putting dynamite on a pig and I've been forced into a straight jacket!

    Save yourself..

    RUN!!

    Her agenda is leaking out of the moderator's forum and will infect you all!

    What?

    HAHAHAHAAA!!

    So to be able to moderate, she has to be a flexible theist (able to become an atheist in a single bound)? Again, can you pinpoint an exact post or thread where she moderated according to her religious beliefs?

    Her posts in threads and forums she has no moderator powers over?

    Does that mean the atheists who are currently moderating the Religion forum, taking the atheist side in the debates are moderating or posting by their personal beliefs?

    Is Sam curbing discussion in the forums she moderates based on her own religious beliefs? Yes or no?

    If yes, link please. If no, move along..

    So you are proposing a pre-emptive strike and remove her as a moderator just in case she shows bias in her moderation of her forums when it comes to her theist leanings? Is that correct?
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Do you know of any forums that do that galucon?
     
  21. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Then go spend them someplace where they matter.
     
  22. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    It's no wonder I'm not familiar with you; almost all your commentary is irrelevant and unworthy of response.

    Try reading the entirety of a thread before responding.
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Clearly the slur of the day is theist.

    And some people wonder why I rant against anti-thiests and their propaganda.
     
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