Star Wars vs Star Trek

I'll admit out of all the times iv'e watched star trek iv'e never seen a phaser miss. Regarding ion cannons they may not work. But if you've ever played Empire At War, I must bring up the Zann Consortium(Don't say they are not part of the story because in Star Wars Insider they had a report of illegal organizations, and the Consortium was one of them). What about the Kelbade-class Battleship's sheild leech ability. It drains the sheild directly from the power source. Would the Enterprise stand up against that?

 

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Most likely - they'd simply invert their shield harmonics and overload the leach device.

 

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congratulations on pulling your first TWScott mate. this is trek remember? and TNG at that? so if you want to pretend that degrees are not defined go ahead and delude yourself. i'd give my right arm it was eighter kelvin or celsius (it would not matter much which) and pray for your sake it's nor fahrenheit

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so here we are, 3k K is the hull temperature that E-D can take as the upper limit. the more viable question my dear dr. Watson is how much energy it would be required to heat it up to that point, but hey, what do i know huh?

btw, did you even watch the episode when i mentioned it, or did you dismiss me for bluffing?

 

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ion cannons would nor work the way they do in SW because of the different nature of ST shielding. i.e. ion gun has no special properties against grav. shields, it's just a regular weapon.

as for the shield drainer, it depends. does it drain all power sources or just the shield in SW? if it's only the shield, again the tech is far o different (particle/ray VS gravity distortion. if it's for all power sources then a list of power generators affected might give us more clues.

 

I actually have seen the episode, but I looked up a synopsis because it'd been a while. Also, I only have a few minutes normally to type up responses here (working two jobs + school, I'm dead on my feet)

I'd assume it's Celsius and not Kelvin actually, I was just being stubborn

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There have been episodes where klingon starships have done dogfights mere meters above a stars molten core, lol. I'd assume the added kinetic energy from friction is what tore down the deflector screens so quickly, as sheer temperature shouldn't have been what did it, at least according to other TNG episodes.

 

Actually, thinking about it more...

That's a space shuttle on reentry - thanks to it's shape and design it doesn't actually contact the heated surface.

Now, if' we're talkint 3,000+ C (almost 6k F) then we can safely assume the Stardrive section of the E-D wasn't having this happen. It was likely taking the entire brunt of reentry,

A 3cm protrusion was thought to be a significant risk because of it's effect on aerodynamics... what would something the size of the E-D's stardrive section be faction, considering her shields would be taking the entire brunt of the heat and kinetic forces... 0_o

 

Well first off the power soruces are incompatible.

Second, according to emprie war, a rail gun which is even less powerful than a plasma weapons can instantly destroy any star wars frigate and seriously cripple a capital ship regardless of shields.

 

aye, i'd say that's about right. E-D was not designed for atmosheric entry (especially the stardrive), ergo the high level of termal damage.

 

Just thogught i'd ask about the leech thing. Anyways I've noticed you guys only focus on space battles though. What if they fought ON a ship or on land?:shrug: Surely there's no denying that then SW would win.

 

well there is little or no chance for bording actions and who ever wins in space has a huge advantage in planetary combat (just like the role of airforce for the past 60 or so years). anyways without the jedi, SW does not really have that huge an advantage in ground combat. some of their mechs are usefull. and they have cheap droids in huge ammounts. but the overal firepower and accuracy is still inferior. i'd say on the terms of Empire VS UFP, the empire does have some advantage, but not on the magnitude that space superiority would not counter. the real advantage of SW lies in their FTL and large pool of resources.

 

Gonna sound like a total new guy but what does FTL mean?

 

FTL=faster then light

usualy refers to propulsion or comms

 

On a ship, hand to hand or weapons battles? Wars would get destroyed quite badly, basically because their alien races are pretty much 'standard' whereas ST species vary so greatly. Think it comes down to how technologically advanced the AI, robotic, and cybernetics are. However... Im watching 'Prey' right now and they're hunting Species 8472, so they're modifying their rifles to fire nanoprobe discharges.

For those who say SW has the Force and some other better ranking warriors, well for that - sure we then go to the more versatile characters. I dont know how many SW Jedi anyone might submit to fight battles, and if they're on ship or land. SW has shown to have much larger alien creatures they could use for a land-based old school war, on foot. On the other hand, I dont see how anyone in Trek would even consider such a thing. Why send crowds in when the obvious response is to set off an explosive in the center of the cluster?

Oh well, should prove to be an interesting discussion tho. As for land/air vehicles and stuff... I think SW has pretty cool stuff for that too, but again, there's a lot of strategies to beat old-school battles.

 

Thanks.

 

Okay trekies bear with me but lets think of this scenario "SW defeats ST in a massive space battle. The death star is too far away to destroy earth and end the war. So Palpatine orders a land invasion". What then?

 

that question is a bit naive. this is not chess and moves will be drawn simultaniously. if you want to make a point, define your scenario amd how you think it would proceed and then we evaluate it according to onscreen evidence. or to correct myself, this is what i'd do, i can't vouch for anyone else.

 

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Where should we start?

 

it's 2 AM here so i'm going to start by brushing my teeth

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but, if you need an inspiration here's a start:
a small imperial taskforce drops out of hyperspace in a system with no significant space deffences. the flotila is composed of a dozen lambda shuttles and half a dozen assult shuttles escorted by several corvettes and a fregate.

on the planet there is a federation outpost.....
now you continue by describing both forces troops.

 

1:U live in Europe?
2:I'm not quite familiar of all the federation units.

 

yup, Europe +1 GMT, you?