street value of oxytocin

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  1. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    a co-worker today was saying that there was quite a lot of demand among drug users for oxytocin. im pretty sure that she is mistaking it for oxycontin as oxytocin is produced naturally by breastfeeding mothers. but can anyone tell me whether there is a street demand for oxytocin?

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  3. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    I have never heard of such an absurd thing. I don't know why anyone would want to abuse a mammalian hormone that helps with maternal functions during and after pregnancy.

    Though it seems a lot of people make the mistake of oxytocin vs oxycontin.
     
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  5. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    well those cows did look pretty whacked out once we gave them a jab of it...

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  7. Theoryofrelativity Banned Banned

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    http://www.verolabs.com/who.php?UID=20060811125215195.93.21.101

    and:

    "ORGASM AND THE ENDOCRINE SYSTEM

    In both sexes, orgasm releases both oxytocin and prolactin into the blood

    We're unsure why, the current story is that: Oxytocin is responsible for the post-coital "glow", + may be important for female libido"

    and:

    http://www.topix.net/content/cj/1606997592055848263

    "Oxytocin aka The Cuddle Drug
    March 07, 2006

    By Claudia Croft

    The Cuddle Drug

    1) Oxytocin naturally occurs (in both men and women) when people simply hug.
    2) Oxytocin is present in lactating mothers - nipple stimulation is recommended by doctors for mothers with lactating problems.
    3) Oxytocin via nipple stimulation is recommended for mothers-to-be to ripen the cervix which shortens labor and makes delivery easier.
    4) Oxytocin is stimulated (and/or injected) to help induce labor in mothers-to-be
    5) Oxytocin -nipple stimulation- relieves stress (in men and women)
    6) Oxytocin is present when sexually stimulated (in men and women)

    Not an OTC (over the counter drug), oxytocin can be naturally produced by stimulating the nipples. One product has been patented as a nipple stimulant Rings of Desire(tm). Originally named Nipple Huggers(R), patent reads as in part "....such fingers arouse every sensual desire in the wearer.... The overall sensation is simply euphoric. This is as close to any aphrodisiac presently known to man.
    http://nipple-huggers.com/Lacy-n-More.html&qu... ;
    Rings of Desire(tm) emulates the stimulation of oxytocin. A very desirable hormone in every sense of the word. According to a resent 3 month survey Rings of Desire may well give Viagra a run for their money!
    --- Womens Sexual Health Researcher"
     
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  8. morningskater Registered Member

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    I read an issue of the proceedings of the national academy of sciences devoted to oxytocin about 10 years ago -- this is what I remember. Oxytocin can be released either on the brain side or on the blood side of the blood/brain barrier. Importantly, with regards to your question, it won't cross the blood/brain barrier. The oxytocin that's involved in lactation is released outside of the b/b barrier and doesn't affect one's emotions. Some of the oxytocin that's released during sex and during childbirth is released on the brain side (as a neurotransmitter rather than as a hormone) and it appears to affect one's emotions very strongly. Specifically, either during sex or during childbirth, it makes a woman feel attached to, bonded to, loving toward the warm body next to her. The release of oxytocin in the brain (as opposed to its release as a hormone in the rest of the body) follows a chain of events that begins in the genital area, but it is a *brain* release. So unless you inject the stuff directly into your head, you won't get any of the emotional benefits from taking oxytocin as a street drug.
     
  9. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Oxytocin? I think he was talking about oxycodon?

    In any case, I know that oxicodon is in very high demand, as it is one of the most expensive painkillers sold in the black market. I got some legally when I broke my elbow, and I can see why it is in such high demand. My body is very resistant to many drugs, and oxicodon is by far the one that makes me most high (of course I never tried the insane ones that makes you want to kill people). It's lovely. It numbs your whole body and makes you feel hyper-happy!

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  10. DJ Erock Resident Skeptic Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, I think they're talking about oxycontin. Oxicodon is a step below oxycontin in terms of power. It's very popular, not only for swallowing or blowing, but it can also be powdered, boiled, and injected, with close to the same effect as heroin.
     
  11. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Oxycontin is the same as oxycodone, it's just physically prepared for time-release rather than a big rush and fadeout. People who want a high rather than pain relief prefer the rush, and since oxycodone isn't as readily available they crush oxycontin pills to ruin the time-release effect. Then they might snort it or find some other creative way to get it into their bloodstream faster than the stomach.

    Oxycodone is a synthetically formulated opiate, nearly identical in chemistry and pharmacology to heroin. The vast majority of people who take it for pain, even outside the structure of a hospital, manifest no tendency to become addicted. This is part of the large body of clinical evidence for the hypothesis that drug addiction correlates with a certain psychological or biochemical profile. If this were true it would argue against the commonly accepted political theory that it can be managed by reducing temptation through controlling availability.
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    This is interesting. I actually consciously make myself believe that I don't ever get addicted to anything. So far, I haven't gotten addicted to anything, for a matter of fact, despite the fact that when I use something too many times, it loses much of its effect. Despite the loss, I feel little addiction. I personally think it is possible to get biochemically addicted, but it takes a large amount and prolongued usage...
     
  13. Roman Banned Banned

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    Oxycodone didn't impress me at all. I got some for my wisdom teeth being pulled, and I took a few just for the hell of it. Liek omgz!!! it maed me sleepeh!!!! wwowowwz!1

    Pfff. Coke is far better.
     
  14. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Truthseeker,

    Smoke some crack and get back to us on your amazing powers of repelling addiction. That would be short-term addiction, of course. Eradicated with a night's sleep. For long term addiction, try heroin. You'll have to do a lot of it though. For a substantial period of time for the physical addiction to kick in. Not sure how much or how long... never did heroin. Always figured I'd like it too much.



    Roman,

    You do realize that different drugs affect people differently?
    I recall the days when me any my buds were popping Xanax like it was going out of style. They would get all blitzed and pass out all over the place, but I'd get a rush out of it. Heh. I recall one night, everybody passed out in my living room and I was all full of energy and bummed that I was alone. So I sketched everyone and left their sketches laying on them to find in the morning. Pretty good likenesses, too. I have difficulty catching all the little details when drawing people and the little differences can make a big difference in recognition. One time I drew a picture of Ozzy Osbourne that looked like Dave Mustaine. But that night with the Xanax, I captured their essences perfectly.
     
  15. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    or at least you thought you did...

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  16. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    No. Actually, I did. When they woke up and saw the sketches laying on top of them, they were all pretty amazed by the likenesses.

    The key to proper perspective in drug use is to wait until the drugs have worn off to make value judgements. Yes?
     
  17. Roman Banned Banned

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    Yes.
    Though shrooms get me really, really bad. I completely loose it when I'm on them. It's the whole knowledge of just being on a trip, but also being consumed by my ego and terrible visages that grow in the barks of trees. And everything undulates and swells like a giant pulsing womb. So everything's terribly visceral and not actually happening. Crazy man!
     
  18. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    What you're describing is tolerance, not addiction. They often occur together, but not always. Sometimes tolerance can be overcome by taking a larger dose or taking a second dose when the first one wears off. If it accompanies addiction it exacerbates it because the addictive effect increases with the dose.

    Sometimes tolerance simply can't be overcome. Most people just can't get off on a second hit of LSD until several days have passed. Most people can't keep themselves high on marijuana for more than 6-8 hours. In these cases tolerance works against addiction with naturally occurring long periods of sobriety.

    Addiction is generally caused by physical or psychological withdrawal symptoms, not directly by tolerance. Tobacco has a rather low tolerance curve but its fierce, long-lasting, and treatment-resistant withdrawal symptoms, of both types, make it the most highly addictive of all commonly used psychoactive drugs.

    Physical withdrawal symptoms can often be mitigated with other, less addictive drugs, or in some cases managed by external discipline in a controlled setting. So it's the psychological symptoms that generally lead to addiction.

    As I mentioned earlier, people who are given addictive drugs for medical reasons are statistically far less likely to become addicted than people who seek them out to make themselves feel better. This supports the hypothesis that some people have an addiction-prone personality or biochemistry.
     
  19. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Well, people who seek drugs to feel better often has a history of drug use within the family. So is this biochemical or situational? Are alcoholics chemically addicted or they are psychologically addicted to it because they use it as an escape?
     
  20. Blue_UK Drifting Mind Valued Senior Member

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    Whenever I feel the need for booze it's psychological. It makes things much more comfortable.

    Caffeine, on the other hand... I've been craving for a 2L bottle of coke for some time.
     
  21. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    ugh, i can barely stand coke. it tastes like arse and is nothing but sugar and acid mixed together.
     
  22. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Huuuuuummm... sugar with acid.....

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  23. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    I love caffeine... i drink diet pepsi like crazy... dt pep vanilla ...mmmmm,


    Rick
     

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