Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by StrawDog, Sep 17, 2009.

1. ### StrawDogdisseminated primatemaiaValued Senior Member

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Before I waste my time, I dont appreciate your veiled threats. I have engaged in a decent manner and tone, I dont claim to be the expert regarding debating technique and skill level. I, like many others, is engaged in a process of learning and engagement. The TONE of the above comment, in relation to my track record on this forum, is unacceptable and unwarranted. This leads me to conclude there is a vendetta afoot on this board, aimed at dissenting voices. Dissent and opposing views being the essence of healthy debate. In my opinion, you are abusing your role as a moderator, and I expect a response that is accordingly, acceptable to me. If none is forthcoming, I will happily move on.

Note. I am not denying the fact that my debate is flawed, I am objecting to the tone and manner of your post.

3. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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StrawDog:

I'm not sure what this is about, but I'd suggest you might want to take a look around you at how certain other political members have faired of late, particularly when they have argued about moderator bias.

And no, this is not a veiled threat. I don't know what your issue is with superstring01, and at this stage I don't feel the need to investigate further.

5. ### GustavBannedBanned

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string is quite within his rights to demand sources from you, anyone can

no one however can ask string to do so because he will delete all instances of the requests

that too was deleted

/befuddled

is it such an unreasonable request?
i mean...so and so wrote about it in a book so it must be true?

are these these the new and improved standards?
i find them wanting

7. ### StrawDogdisseminated primatemaiaValued Senior Member

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Strings response for the record.

8. ### superstring01Moderator

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So, you don't like it when a moderator tells you to play by the rules? Sorry. Deal with it. Better yet: DON'T EVER GET A JOB. Because you'll always have someone bigger than you telling you to play by rules you don't like. That's life.

I'm not beating around the bush, playing coy, or hinting at anything. I'm being totally direct and blunt, Straw. No need to read between the lines! I'll repeat: You've be warned. If you don't improve, you'll be suspended.

In recent weeks we've seen some changes in the forum. At this point in the game, I'll state honestly, I don't care whether you like the direction or not. The WE&P forum has actively seeded the rest of the forum with malcontents and we are working on changing that.

To that end (and in this case) you see me moderating your behavior because you aren't playing by the rules.

You claimed:
• Bhutto's assassination was linked to the USA
• The USA is actively destabilizing Pakistan through the actions of the CIA and other covert activity.

In order to support those claims, you provided commentary articles and opinion pieces, which amount to little more than stating fluff. If we play by those rules, I'm certain that I can find well-written opinion pieces pointing out the savagery of Muslims, how the religion is pure evil and how all Semites should be exterminated. But does that prove anything? No.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.

If you don't play by this rule, well, expect me or another mod to correct you. If you're just too sensitive to deal with the corrective action that has been given you, then perhaps you're just a little too sensitive to post on this website. I'll give it to you like I give it to the malcontents who work under me: "It's time to make a career decision. Play by the rules, or go somewhere else."

~String

9. ### GustavBannedBanned

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lets recap events

1 - i request sources
you provide books

2 - i request sources used in books
you refuse to answer and delete

3 - i request again
you refuse to answer, you delete again and issue warning

you set a really bad example, string

10. ### superstring01Moderator

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You're being ignored because you are a troll and this is the last time, outside the warning system, that I will acknowledge you in this matter. You were warned for re-posting the same material three times. Go play somewhere else Gustav.

~String

11. ### StrawDogdisseminated primatemaiaValued Senior Member

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I reiterate, as first stated.

An allusion to TROLLING, is utterly unaceptable. Please indicate, with examples, exactly how you reached this conclusion.

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12. ### GustavBannedBanned

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heh
straw acknowledges correction and asks string not to yell
string comes in here yelling even louder

haha

show some maturity and restraint, fella
you are on a unnecessary rampage
having a bad hair day or something?

13. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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I thought you left. Didn't you post a Goodbye cruel world thread earlier?

14. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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gustav:

You are developing a bad habit of sticking your nose in the middle of disputes between moderators and other members that do not concern you. If you want to keep sticking your neck out, bear in mind that it may come back to bite you sooner or later.

Best wishes.

15. ### superstring01Moderator

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I already did. I told you, in a nut shell, if you didn't like the tone, too bad. I couldn't possibly be more clear. Since day one, you've favored large claims and little evidence. That's going to change. It's changed for Buffalo, it's changed for Q, it's changed for PJ, it'll change for you too, or (as I stated) you won't be allowed to post anymore.

~String

16. ### GustavBannedBanned

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for asking you to provide citations?
come now
thats just patently disingenuous

string supports his argument by saying... i paraphrase......

"so and so wrote a book about it so it must be true"

yeh
"fuck" where the proof comes from

thats just a fallacious appeal to authority

again
who or what are the sources?
present them so i can assess credibility

17. ### StrawDogdisseminated primatemaiaValued Senior Member

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Your "us" and "them" bias is clear. What are you trying to achieve with this post?

My posts are limited, to the Feedback forum, between Admins and myself.

18. ### GustavBannedBanned

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sure
however if i have logic and reason on my side i should have nothing to fear right?

you do notice i support string on this yes?

in any case dont you think mod/member disputes have a relevance to all of us? that we can all learn from these episodes?

james?

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19. ### StrawDogdisseminated primatemaiaValued Senior Member

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Your ongoing belligerence is noted. Your attitude, manner and tone, is noted and reflected in your gleeful banning spree and reference thereof.

As an aside, no hard feelings, I understand that the role of moderator is not an easy one, and that you are likely just having a bad day.

Best wishes.

20. ### superstring01Moderator

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I worked 6 out of 9 hours. Left work early. Went to the gym. Took a nap. Signed on to the forum to be exposed to more unsupported political BS. That, and only that, is the impetus of my actions. Looking for external excuses for my actions is common tactic used by people who don't want to own up to their own issues.

~String

21. ### GustavBannedBanned

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i dont think strings's "extraordinary proof" is a standard we should lower ourselves to

thoughts?

i wholeheartedly agree but why is string exempting himself from this?

22. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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You think?

The funny thing is, I'm more with your "us" than with your "them". You obviously don't know my views well enough to even have worked that out.

I just find it strange that somebody who has decided to leave would want to stick around to argue with a moderator. Call me crazy, but I don't see the point myself. Maybe you can explain.

23. ### Brian FoleyREFUSE - RESISTValued Senior Member

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There is nothing new with this superstring issuing veiled threats on this forum I have twice been threatened by him with banning he even deleted an entire thread of mine because he deemed it Anti-American. In April of this year I got a PM from him that I would be banned if I referred to him as 'not a sharp tool'.

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