Tabby's Star (Dyson Sphere, Alien SETI Eclipse?) Flickering Again

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by danshawen, May 30, 2017.

  1. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    I think ignoring early settlements that the united states would be the most succesful colony in that they relativly brought in more value (Science entertainment etc) then others. They are also somewhat warlike. Any nation that lives in a other star system is eventually going to become a other nation and a potential threat for earth. A dyson sphere on the other hand would be the equivallent of 550 million planets settled (in surface area). Integrate a matrioska brain behind it and you can build several universes that obeys your personal set of physics if you like. the equivallent of 550 million physical worlds and countless universes worth of digital space. It could be enough.
    Not saying that there is no need for a presence outside the solar system. But we are far from done with our own.
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    Haven't read Ringworld Throne?.
     
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  5. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    I'm reading lincoln childs the third gate at the moment. I'm afraid I only read like 3 or 4 books in a year now. Never read anything of the ringworld series I' afraid. But I'm still planning to.
    Dyson spheres are most definitly a alternative for interstellar colonization.
    There are a couple of reasons why you would want to move out from earth and he most selfisch ones (emmigration of..., economical, manufacturing, enviromentally) can be done cheaper with a dyson sphere then interstellar colonization. A dyson sphere is easier to control as a cohesive unit and can be larger then a interstellar empire. Meanwhile you can observe and send probes to nearby star systems. These will probably be lifeless. We could terraform them with only non intilligent lifeforms in such a way it's fairly unlikly that any intiligence would develop in the first 5 million year but reasonably likely that it could happen within 50 million years. It would be a good form of life Insurance. The mass from the dyson sphere could come from the asteroid belt when it's still yust a ring around the earth but eventually Mercury and before this planet is mined we will probably get the minerals from the sun itself (more then enough mass and more then enough energy to turn the hydrogen in more usefull elements). I see humanity do that for a cuple of 1000 years afther that science will have advanced to a point where we have more options.
    By that time the infra red radiations that emitted from the dyson sphere will power computers on a solar system scale. These computers will again partially emit heat that will be used by a other level of computers that will simulate some virtual enviroments at the start, entire epochs on a planetairy scale, and eventually universes designed by men, where the relative constant is optional and time is whatever we wan't it to be fasther or slower.
    Sure thousands of years but remember the rise of the roman empire is closer to us then the building of the pyramids to the rise of rome.
    Time flies when you are to dead to notice or have to read it in a history book
     
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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    I'll take that as a "no".
     
  8. orcot Valued Senior Member

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    Do you recommend it? in the ringworld series? or do you need the first books first
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    The series is well worth a read. You'd need the first to explain Teela Brown and why Louis Wu needs a droud. I re-read them ever 5-10 years.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ringworld is my number one all time favorite books. Niven is my all-time favorite author.
    My second favorite book is Protector, part of the same universe.
     
  11. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    "Mote" is my all time favorite Niven, but the Ringworld series is right up there in the cloud called "favorites". I read Mote while watching Mt. Etna explode.
     
  12. Walter L. Wagner Cosmic Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld
     
  13. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    I could look out my window and imagine "Fist of God" looking back at me. I mean it even had a hole in the top! (And on some days, when the conditions were right, it looked like Ringworld is supposed to have looked. Odd optical illusion that made it look like it curved off into infinity.)
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Just refrain from driving your city into the caldera...
     
  15. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    I'd have to be high to do that. And I can't find my droud. TANJ it!
     

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