Temporary banning of Lord Hillyer and Prince_James

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  1. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    it's about time you made your appearance.

    it's funny that you should have to make the above post, was it not clear enough in the original threads?

    anyway i like the use of the word "violently", yes indeed, james "violently" deleted your threads, he "violently" banned you.

    in any event it's over. PJ has already made it clear he has some kind of agenda against "black". he can't admit he has "black" genes.
    JB was exactly the same and everybody knows what a racist JB was.
     
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  3. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    PJ, tell me where the double standard is. When was a blacks-only, Asians-only, or Native-Americans-only club formed? And did James R allow it? You seem to imply there was one, so I can only assume this grievance of yours is based on the idea you're being discriminated against because you're white or something. Like some other race was allowed to make a them-only club on SciForums, but you were unfairly banned for making an analogous club for yourself. Is this the case?

    You do realize the possibility he's white himself. Right?

    On this note, you say that a whites-only club is not at all different from a chess club. Except you seem to fail to realize that people can choose to play chess, while people can't choose to be white.

    Any reason why you capitalize that? I wasn't aware it was a proper noun. In fact, I'm skeptical of its status as a word, period.

    This is an oxymoron. And a red herring.

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  5. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Athelwulf:

    That blacks or any other racial group did not wish to make a group is not my concern. In fact, feel free to make one yourself and let us see what occurs, shall we?

    Never heard of self-hate?

    So? A biological trait is just as much a reason to have a group as not to. Ever hear of "tall clubs"?

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Leftism

    Generally Right and Left are capitalized.
     
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  7. Singularity Banned Banned

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    Will u stop this nonsense, didnt u read my links ?

    Or has anger made a moron out of u ?

    Why dont u admit your mistake and get on with life ?

    U thought u were different, but u r not.
     
  8. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Singularity:

    First off: Learn to type "you".

    Secondly: The common ancestry of man is irrelevant.
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I see that Prince_James has chosen to continue ranting, rather than reflecting.

    And Mr Hillyer has also chimed in.

    This thread has grown significantly, and become sidetracked with off-topic irrelevancies since I last looked at it.

    I will respond in detail by this time tomorrow at the latest. In the meantime, I have more important things to do. Whingers aren't a high priority.
     
  10. Singularity Banned Banned

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    Why is it irrelevant ?

    And why should U celebrate the first white man that originated form blacks after they conquered Europe 10000 years ago ? :shrug:

    BTW, This White man was result of a genetic defect that makes less melanin in their skin.

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  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Okay then. Let's see...

    Not actually a lot of content in this thread. Mostly, it's just bluster and posture.

    Hmm...

    Prince_James:

    I did do quite well there, didn't I? This was another example of you attempting to critique a source which you haven't actually read, as I recall. Totally irrelevant to the current discussion, of course.

    I have never owned this forum, or claimed to do so.

    Since when can I decide policy here? Answer: I can make policy to the extent that the administrators permit me to do so and agree to support my actions. I will be able to do that for as long as I maintain the confidence of the administrators/owners of the site. I value their opinions, and I will bow to their wishes.

    You're the one claiming the 156 IQ. Work it out, Einstein.

    As Athelwulf has already pointed out, people are free to choose to join a chess club if they wish to play chess. On the other hand, a black person cannot choose to be white. You seek to discriminate on the basis of an innate and superficial characteristic.

    As you know, of course, this whole strand of your "argument" is a red herring. You weren't banned for attempting to start a club.

    You conveniently ignore all non-racist explanations for that, all the while proclaiming loudly that you are not racist.

    Give me a stupid tolerant person rather than an intelligent bigotted one, any day.

    Charming.

    The next time you produce this sort of language in reference to another member of sciforums, you will be banned for at least 7 days.

    It seems you don't understand what these words are telling you. Given your recent record, I doubt you've read the entire article you extracted these words from. I'd urge you to do so. However, I suspect you might require some scientific training to understand what you're reading. I suggest you attempt to procure some before tackling the article in full. Should you not wish to do so, I suggest you stick to what you're good at (presumably something in philosophy) and give up on messing around with things you don't understand.

    For the record, the accepted scientific consensus on the issue, as presented by spuriousmonkey (who has the relevant scientific credentials you lack, by the way), is:

     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Hillyer:

    I quote the first post of this thread:

    I am glad to see you're back-peddling now, claiming that you were trying to expose hypocrisy - a worthy aim. Your thread was poorly judged, but clearly, you used your three day break more productively than Prince_James did.
     
  13. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Singularity:

    Because my last ancestor from Africa left the continent beyond about 200,000 years ago.

    Actually, they were white before they entered Europe by all evidence.

    Yep. Just as the black man was the result of a genetic defect that darkened his.

    It's called evolution.
     
  14. John99 Banned Banned

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    na ah, it wuz 200,002 yeaz ago.
     
  15. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    James R.:

    Actually, I have read "Guns, Germs, and Steel". I have it on my book shelf, in fact, right now.

    Ergo, you cannot establish new rules of "no segregated clubs allowed".

    And only segregation by race, or by everything?

    I don't see anything that was racist in the least. Love of one's own race without disparaging another is hardly a racist stance.

    Superficial? Is "being human" superficial? Another innate characteristic which seems to have a great deal of importance!

    Yes, I was banned because you accused me of something which I did not do: Foment racial hatred.

    Did I or did I not ever say anything in the White Sciforums Members' Club that claimed any race was inferior to whites? Or that the white race was superior? Or any other claim? If so, present it quoted verbatim. I'll concede and be on my way.

    I await for the:

    White Sciforums Members' Clubs

    Prince James says:

    But I am afraid you won't be able to provide such, as I did not say anything to that tune.

    The scientists behind said book is that the genetic evidence is available. Note: Not "racist" evidence, but genetic evidence.

    You know, science not politics.

    You must be quite in love with yourself.

    Last I checked, the infraction for abusive language was 5 points, not 7 days.

    Am I to suppose that it is Sciforums policy to give some people greater punishment than others for the same crime?

    How about calling me a "racist bigot"?

    Are you going to address such abusive language directed to me?

    Actually, I have taken several classes in college-level science. Although I have no degree, I believe I have a relative good establishment in several studies.

    And I also read the full article: It affirms the reality of genetic populations corresponding to colloquial races.

    OF course we're one species. Species, however, can be aligned into races.

    I do not claim that blacks, Orientals, whites, Semites, et cetera, are all different species. Only different races.

    These different races are proven by the very same genetic patterns that correspond to the drifting patterns of human migrations from an initial African origin, of which the article speaks of, and supports on genetic foundations.

    Further proof can be found in crime-scene forensic genetics, bone analyses, phenotype analyses, and "racial medicine".

    If race were not a biological fact, forensic genetics could not differentiate a white man from a black man, bone analyses could not tell a Mesoamerican from an Oriental, phenotypes would not exist, and racial medicine would work equally as effectively across the races.

    Sadly for your viewpoint, the converse of the above is true.
     
  16. iam Banned Banned

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    I know, it's bizrrely amazing. I've lived in europe for a few years myself and they just don't have the kind of really base mentality americans have. America touts itself as the melting pot and it's the most negative, degenerate racist society i've ever encountered. I mean even asia is less mockful of foreigners. It's really pathetic, maybe there is something in the water.
     
  17. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    About irrelevancy:
    And mine, beyond several many billion years ago and I'm still awed by the universe. See why you sound so damn provincial?
     
  18. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Many billion years ago there was no Africa in any recognizable form, besides this planet is just over 4 billion years old, so it can't be that many.
     
  19. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Just like you to dilute my fucking point.
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Well, these are science forums, get used to it.
     
  21. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, you do have a point there, Avatar: restrictive perspectives; validating the insular and the uninspired. Think you can photograph that?? I picture something in a graveyard.
     
  22. Lord Hillyer Banned Banned

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    From a Private Message I sent a few moments after I began the thread. Please note the date and time:

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    This is not Bush-Iraq style retro-justification. This was our intention from the start.
     
  23. Lord Hillyer Banned Banned

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    Source for Spurious Monkey citation:

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