The Bhagavad-Gita

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  1. spookz Banned Banned

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    i think raj does his own translations
     
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  3. Rajagopals Registered Senior Member

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    I know !

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  5. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    I didnt say God <i>as</i> a dimension.I said God might reside is the Dimension where There is Perfect state of consiousness(Heaven).And may be that is the end of our Soul EVolution.When we project,we enter another Dimension called Astral Dimension closer to Reality.

    Perhaps that is why it is said that when Shiva's third eye will open it will be the the end of the world,As a new Dimension will be added...

    just thoughts...


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  7. kmguru Staff Member

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    On the otherhand, Shiva's third eye could be a metaphor for blackhole formation in a nearby system that showers massive neutron radiation on earth to destroy all life....
     
  8. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    Quite Possibly.

    The things that Gods Taught us could be interpreted in many ways...Since i think during those times one could not understand Dimensions exactly.So gods found a way to impart knowledge of theirs through various ways.Think about it.I have heard several times that God Resides in Heaven.Indra is Lord and King of heaven.The heaven is a place where everyone is happy.It is a place with perfect consiousness state.Another Dimension stated.
    what do you think?


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  9. Rajagopals Registered Senior Member

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    “Perfect state of consciousness” can we call that Heaven ? I feel this could also inform us of the problems in future and we tend to worry for that unnecessarily. This might induce a state of laziness as we know what’s on our way. Since this also initiate a Godly feeling of hyper ego which might also result in agony at the end with the knowledge that man will never become God. So altogether its nothing but another Maya (illusion) by the great magician He Himself.

    This perfect state of consciousness could also stop the time as the deliberate query about any instance of an event (time) brings back memories of complete information. And this will allow us to travel in time, and I feel this will be the only time when we feel our self, our soul, rather than the end of it. We will see our self different from the rest of the world; we will find our self out of the control of time and the events. An independent existence within a very fragile, predictable, chain of events, triggered from the human thoughts.

    Even at this stage we carry the ego of body as body is required for senses to exist. We know the rest of the universe except us. And by the blessing of the Lord Shiva, if the opening of the Third Eye of the Lord is happening to him, then his ego gets dispersed by the sheer amount of love the Lord has for everything existing. We will get amazed by the quantity of love that he has imparted to the universe, we will lose the ego of the mind, and this is the only time when we loose our self and join the almighty for eternity.

    The destroying power of the third eye is only for the ego of Aham (knowledge of self). Ahamkaram (arrogance) because of the (non-existent) heightened thoughts of self, is what is going to get destroyed. This destructive power will finish any other self derived thoughts and feelings and push the individual to the universal knowledge and existence.
     
  10. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Rajagopals,

    I have a question: what is the difference
    between Uttara Gita and Uttara Kanda?
     
  11. Rajagopals Registered Senior Member

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    First of all Uttara Gita is part of the Bhagavath Geeta, and Uttara Kandam is one of the seven sections of Ramayanam.

    In Uttara Gita, the Yogic practices are detailed with its results in its originality, but in Uttara Kandam the philosophy of life is detailed from a different perspective.

    Uttara Gita is the advice given by Lord Krishna to Arjuna, Uttara Kanda is the story of Sita and her sons after they Sita has been discarded by Sri Ram.

    One contains intricate details of Yoga and meditation, and other details the philosophy of being human.
     
  12. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you for answering my
    question, much appreciated.

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  13. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

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    Attended a recent seminar on "Contemporary Corporate Challenges: Ancient Indian Solutions" conducted recently.
    Basically it was trying to find solutions primarily based on the Gita!
     
  14. druj Registered Member

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    God-Evolution

    Sorry but if God is pure awareness as emptiness
    then how does a soul climb the chain of
    evolution?

    To where does one climb to reach God?

    My understanding of Jnana is that a person
    knows the Self by continually seeking
    the source of the I until
    the knot of the ego is completely detatched
    from the body. This
    knot, according to Ramana Maharshi,
    is an energy spot to the right of the heart
    yet at the sametime not in the body -- and
    as pointed out thus far -- identified with
    the consciousness of the SUN.

    According to David Godman, who is the biographer
    of Poonjaji, Ramana's most well-known disciple,
    only a few people have
    actually achieved SELF-REALIZATION.

    Ramana Maharshi says that there IS NO EVOLUTION
    only pure awareness.

    Actually I AGREE WITH ALAIN DANIELOU

    who teaches that the THREE does not collapse
    into the ONE

    Personally I think that Advaita Vedanta

    is the origins of the All-Seeing Eye Freemasonic
    External Path of DE-EVOLUTION.

    This is exposed, unintentionally, by Prof. Abraham Seidenberg's
    "The Ritual Origins of Geometry" -- (a popular essay in Vedic
    studies): Squaring of the Circle for Brahman sacrfice altars
    in 3,000 B.C. Seidenberg also promotes human sacrifice
    as social engineering to maintain creation as the
    separation of heaven and earth -- in the academic journal
    Folklore.

    It Was At That Time that INFINITY became a CLOSED SET
    Necessary to create the exact same area for the square
    and the circle.

    THE ONE or the SELF that is defined by the Brahmans

    instead of the Adi Shakti -- which is the Dravidian
    Taoist-Basque-- Shaivite -- Cosmic Mother Trinity -- Also Expressed by the Pythagorean 1:2:3:4 whereby 1 goes into HEKATE the INDETERMINATE.

    Esoteric Buddhism was an attempt to deal with the "DEAD-TREE ZEN"

    INDIFFERENT EMPTINESS of JNANA (Dyana-Chan-Zen) Yoga.

    In otherwords -- just hiding out in the Empty Awareness

    -- even if you completely know your SELF

    and stating that only the SELF is really and

    since I know the SELF, I am not doing anything

    since ANything that I do is actually Brahman.

    You can see the moral problems this can create.

    This is the actually closely connected to the Tree of Life
    and Knowledge from Genesis (equivalent with Earth and Heaven
    respectively). Brahman is the "I" that separates or harmonizes
    the two.

    I agree with Prof. David Loy's critique of Brahman in
    NONDUALITY: A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS, Yale Press.

    This issue that I've exposed continues to be
    a heated debate on Indian philosophy listserves
    and will continue to be so until the Apocalypse
    happens. Sorry to expose the problem again.
    My latest research is available at the conspiracy
    forum of Guerrillanews.com -- just do an extensive
    search under my name over the last six months.

    For further information please see my "The Actual Matrix
    Plan" published online under my name, Drew Hempel, M.A.
     
  15. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Off topic question ...

    Are you related to Mark Hempel?
     
  16. druj Registered Member

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    That depends...Mark Hempel of what location?

    drew hempel
     
  17. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    That depends? On what? The Mark Hempel I'm referring
    to is the webmaster for this site: Wingmakers.com
     
  18. druj Registered Member

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    It's possible but not that I know of.
    Very likely an extended family member.
     
  19. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.

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  20. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    Druj- what is your understanding of Jianism? (I hope I'm even coming close in spelling that right)
     
  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    That is a whole different topic....
     
  22. UltiTruth In pursuit... Registered Senior Member

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    Jainism of Mahavira?
     
  23. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    My god this book come from my religion and i don't know crap about it

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    ...it has some beautiful text in it though

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