The cause of earthquakes is the explosion of water gases

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  1. Fermer05 Registered Senior Member

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    The cause of earthquakes is the explosion of water gases.
    Community of Russian scientists. https://vk.com/rosuch
    In geologically active zones of the earth, deep faults in the earth's crust are located, into which water collects. http://www.crust.irk.ru/spp2/pages/maps.htm
    As a result of pressure, temperature and time, the process of water degassing occurs. https://clck.ru/34zziH https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_oxygen
    In faults the size of Lake Baikal, light gases collect at the top of the faults, and heavy gases at the bottom. https://clck.ru/34yQpG
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal
    And as soon as the ratio of gas and oxygen in one of the parts of the vertical faults approaches - 1:10, an explosion occurs and the waves from the earthquake source scatter in different directions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canyon
    After the explosion, faults diverge from the source of the earthquake, into which the combustible mixture rushes. An earthquake begins with a foreshock, with a small explosion, due to which gas and oxygen are mixed. Foreshocks are also a catalyst and harbinger of major seismic events. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreshock
    In faults, not all of the combustible mixture explodes, but only that part that has reached the desired proportion.
    The duration of earthquakes and the number of underground explosions depend on the amount of combustible mixture in the epicentral region.
    Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of compression of the combustible mixture, contact of magma with a combustible mixture, or from an electric discharge.
    The self-ignition temperature of gases is about 500°C. https://www.ngpedia.ru/id659214p1.html
    The presented hypothesis can be easily verified by blowing up a firecracker under the ice.
    1. In the resulting faults, rarefaction occurs, due to which the faults draw in air and then close.
    2. After seismic events, faults are filled with magma, due to which one of the types of folded mountains is formed.
    3. The walls of the faults are more than a kilometer high and several tens of kilometers wide. and a length of several hundred kilometers, due to the effects of pressure and temperature, they become stronger. https://clck.ru/34pyLR
    4. It is possible that some vertical faults are interconnected.
    5. It is possible that tectonic lakes, canyons and rivers formed from vertical faults. https://bigenc.ru/c/tektonicheskie-oziora-f68d86
    6. I believe that minerals are formed in vertical and horizontal faults under the influence of temperature, pressure and time.
    7. Other combustible mixtures can form in the bowels of the earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
    8. Gullies can form between magma and the earth's crust on the reverse side of the earth's crust, in which magmatic gases collect as a result of magma degassing. https://www.ngpedia.ru/id659214p1.html
    And as soon as the ratio of gases approaches - 1:10, an explosion occurs and the waves from the source of the explosion scatter in different directions. After the explosion, faults diverge from the source of seismic events, into which the combustible mixture rushes.

    The amplitude of a seismic wave can be determined by the following formula: A = m/h.
    Where, m is the mass of the combustible mixture.
    h is the depth of the combustible mixture.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_wave
    In the epicentral region, a predominantly vertical oscillation of the earth's crust occurs with an amplitude of more than a meter, and waves with an amplitude of about a meter diverge from the epicentral region.
    1. Before an earthquake, some animals leave the active fault zone. I think the animals are alarmed by the smell of gas coming out of cracks. https://clck.ru/34raLX
    2. The gas content above the epicentral region can be determined using a gas trap containing litmus paper. Litmus paper can be placed in basements that are on the fault line. https://m.fishki.net/3822287-kak-zhivotn
    3. The concentration of gases in the faults can be determined using wells.
    4. An earthquake can be provoked artificially by drilling a well in fresh faults. https://clck.ru/34pyLR
    5. In separate segments of the fault, local explosions, foreshocks and aftershocks occur, which increase the pressure and temperature in the faults, causing a rumble, trembling and swelling of the earth's crust.
    6. It is possible that the cause of anomalous phenomena in the atmosphere during seismic events is the release of a combustible mixture into the atmosphere.
    7. Chinese scientists began drilling a well 10,000 meters deep. https://clck.ru/34zvXo

    The formation of planets is accompanied by the formation of cracks.
    One of the fissures is the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, which is located in the Atlantic Ocean and diverges at a rate of 0 to 3 mm per year.
    The reason for the divergence of the ridge is volcanoes and earthquakes that occur at the junction of the crack, and as a result, the size of the ridge increases both in width and in height.
    In the ridges, due to seismic events, vertical and horizontal faults are formed, due to which the crack expands by millimeters, the ridge by centimeters and the epicentral region by meters. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafloor_spreading
    Gases move along the faults that stretch from mountain systems to the seas and oceans, as a result of which seaquakes are formed, and as a result, mountain systems attack the ocean.
    Mountain systems formed hundreds of millions of years ago, after the formation of the earth's crust, when the earth's crust under the mountain systems was much thinner.
    The higher the mountain systems grew, the more they sagged. Shifts, bends, dips in mountain systems are the result of uneven growth and subsidence of mountain systems.
    Three types of mountains form along the fissures:
    a) Horizontal folded mountains, formed due to numerous eruptions of lava on the surface of the Earth.
    b) Vertical fold mountains are formed after seismic events when vertical faults are filled with magma.
    c) Blocky mountains are formed when folded mountains collapse and grow due to explosions in vertical and horizontal faults.
    https://shkola.obozrevatel.com/news/goryi-kakie-est-vidyi-i-kak-oni-obrazuyutsya.htm
    Due to faults, the density decreases and, as a result, the buoyancy of the earth's crust increases.
    a) The height of the continent above the magma level depends on the density of the continental crust.
    b) The more faults and voids in the mountain systems, the higher the mountain systems. https://habr.com/ru/post/369749/
    Earthquakes and volcanoes are natural phenomena, the role of which is the strengthening of cracks in the earth's crust. And mountain systems are patches on the cracks of the planets.
    More than a million earthquakes are recorded annually on the continents, due to which the strength and buoyancy of the earth's crust increases.

    Continuation: Academgorodok Forum Novosibirsk. The science. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, the cause of earthquakes is the shrugging of dirt muscles.
     
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    I see the Russian nutter is back.

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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Fermer05:

    What do you think of the theory of plate tectonics?
     
  8. Fermer05 Registered Senior Member

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    Criticism of the tectonic hypothesis.
    1. Why do earthquakes occur both at the junction of tectonic plates and in the center of the plate?
    2. The assertion that tension is accumulating at the junction of tectonic plates, unsupported information.
    a) How much greater is the density of tectonic plates at the junction than in the middle of the plate?
    b) Does tectonics affect the rate of well drilling?
    3. A seismic wave on the surface of the earth can only be created by an impact, and not by compression of the lithospheric plates.
    After compression, the earth's crust is not unclenched, but compacted.
    The soil compaction ratio is 95%.
    https://buildingclub.ru/kojefficient-uplotnenija/?amp=1
    The above can be easily checked by setting up an experiment.
    4. If the lithospheric plates were constantly moving one on top of the other, then the globe would tremble and hum, especially in zones of seismic activity.
    5. Tectonic plates cannot have the properties of a spring or rubber.
    a) this can be easily verified by experiment.
    6. What happens to the islands when the continental crust creeps over the oceanic crust?
    7. If oceanic lithospheric plates go under the continental ones - how did the fossils of marine animals end up high in the mountains? https://bigenc.ru/biology/text/2704413
    a) At the same time, fossils of marine animals are found in Iceland, despite the fact that in Iceland, the lithospheric plates diverge. https://en.ni.is/geology/fossils
    b) If the Indian Plate goes under the Eurasian Plate, how did the marine animal fossils end up in the Himalayas?
    In the Himalayas, high in the mountains, fossils of land animals should be found. https://proekt7d.ru/okamenelosti/
    c) Fossils of marine animals were found on the entire surface of the earth, including in deserts, but they were not preserved everywhere. http://evolution.powernet.ru/history/Earth_04/
    e) Fossils of marine animals on the surface of the earth - proof that the surface of the earth is not renewed.
    8. If mountain systems were formed as a result of collision of lithospheric plates, the mountain systems would have a different shape and would be much higher, since the oceanic or continental crust that descends to the core of the Earth has a high buoyancy. https://autogear.ru/article/287/111/subduktsiya---eto-opredelenie-tipyi-i-protsess-subduktsii/
    9. There is no information about the number, speed, direction of movement and size of tectonic plates.
    a) if there are 13 lithospheric plates on the Earth, then there should be about 100 tectonic plates.
    b) how many tectonic plates are there on the Eurasian lithospheric plate?
    c) there is no description of the mechanism of interaction of tectonic plates.
    d) Do tectonic plates sink into the Earth's mantle, reaching the depth of the outer core.
    10. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
    11. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
    12. During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe only an underground explosion is capable of this.
    Then, from the epicenter, waves spread in all four directions, due to which the buildings sway like ships on waves.
    a) according to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, vibrations from the epicenter should diverge not in four directions, but only in two directions. By forming a horizontal vibration of the earth's crust, which would be extremely destructive.
    13. Vibrations from earthquakes are transmitted in the form of seismic waves over a distance of more than 10 thousand km.
    a) then why seismic waves do not provoke earthquakes in other regions of the Earth.
    http://www.evgengusev.narod.ru/spb/zhirnov-2011.html
    14. According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, a seismic wave moves along the Earth's crust.
    And according to the explosive hypothesis, a seismic wave can move both along the earth's crust and under the earth's crust (along magma - like a tsunami wave in the ocean).

    15. The volcano can erupt both upward and towards the core of the earth.
    If a volcano erupts towards the core of the earth, then tsunami waves from the volcanic mountain scatter in different directions.
    b) Perhaps one of these earthquakes occurred in the Sea of Okhotsk, in 2013. Then the seismic tsunami wave reached Moscow. https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
    https://news.ucsc.edu/2013/09/deep-earthquake.html
    c) After major earthquakes, the seismic wave goes around half of the globe. I believe that only a seismic tsunami wave, which moves under the Earth's crust, is capable of this. https://www.hmong.press/wiki/1994_Bolivia_earthquake
    16. There is also no exhaustive explanation of the mechanism of movement of seismic waves, from the source of the earthquake to the Earth's surface at a distance of more than 700 km.
    a) as a seismic wave, moving from the source to the epicenter, over a distance of more than 700 km. falls exactly on the fault line. https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
    17. According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicentral area depends on the depth of the source and can exceed 1000 km.
    a) what will be the diameter of the epicentral area if the source depth is 700 km. https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
    b) what will be the diameter of the epicentral region if the earthquake source is located in the center of the Earth?
    18. How to explain the fact that all seaquakes occur only at the foot of the islands and continents.
    Why, in a clear sea or ocean, seaquakes do not occur.
    19. The tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes can be easily tested if two clay slabs are moved towards each other in a basin with water.
     
  9. Fermer05 Registered Senior Member

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    It is believed that over hundreds of millions of years, the Earth's surface has been constantly changing, supercontinents formed and disintegrated.
    The supercontinent Rodinia disintegrated about 750 million years ago. Then it formed and broke up into six continents - the supercontinent Pangea.
    Questions arise:
    1. For Pangea to form, magma-convection currents must move to one point, and for Pangea to disintegrate, magma-convection currents must turn around.
    a) How does the mechanism of reversal, magma-turns work?
    2. In which sea did the Amazon and Congo rivers flow before the collapse of Pangea?
    a) What mark did this sea leave?
    3. Huge streams - water and air drift across the Earth with a specific purpose. And for what purpose are the continents drifting?
    4. I believe that the evolution of the Earth was accompanied not by the drift of continents, but by a change in the inclination of the Earth's axis, due to which thermophilic plants and animals lived beyond the Arctic Circle.
    For this reason, the remains of thermophilic plants and animals are found in Antarctica.
    5.https://images.app.goo.gl/wJhvfGJ88jwUrKT86
    The animation shows India crossing the equator and moving north, despite the magma gate cell remaining in the southern hemisphere.
    a) The assertion that India is sailing from south to north at a speed of 4 cm per year, like an icebreaker in the ocean, is questionable.
    b) With what speed and what was India sailing northward, before the collision with Eurasia? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subduction
    6. It is believed that India, having collided with the Eurasian plate, turns 90 degrees and moves towards the core of the earth.
    a) Why do not cracks form at the place of bending of the slab?
    7. It is believed that when the oceanic plate goes under the continental, a depression is formed with a depth of more than 10 km.
    a) At the same time, most of the depressions in the oceans are too far from the continents and they are not everywhere.
    b) If India goes under the Himalayas, why did not a depression or a reservoir form at the foot of the Himalayas?
    https://images.app.goo.gl/EkLp3TDpVYcBf3MB8 https://images.app.goo.gl/pA2CmLgYpje7SzWC6
    https://neftegaz.ru/tech-library/geology/148157-kraevoy-progib/
    8. What plate goes under the Ural Mountains, and what depth was formed at the foot of the Ural Mountains?
    a) Is there a shear movement of plates in the south and north of the Ural Mountains? https://slide-share.ru/kak-dvizhutsya-litosfernie-pliti-69693
    b) The Ural Mountains - a seismically active crack, which diverges at a rate of 0 to 5 mm per year, and not the result of "plate compression".
    9. It is believed that the Eurasian, Indian and Philippine plates compress Lake Baikal.
    a) Then why do the shores of Lake Baikal diverge at a rate of 2 cm per year?
    10. It is believed that the shores of Lake Baikal diverge at a rate of 2 cm per year.
    a) And with what speed does the bottom of Baikal diverge?
    b) Why didn?t Baikal form along the entire fault line, both in length and in depth?
    c) What is the bottom of Baikal based on if a convection cell operates under Baikal, which constantly expands the fault.
    d) Why doesn't the water in Baikal boil, because under Baikal there should be magma with a temperature of about a thousand degrees? https://dzen.ru/a/XvD23FcU0yLDOwr5
    e) According to the tectonic hypothesis about earthquakes, if the width of Baikal is 50 km, then the bottom of Baikal should be more than 50 km wide, and the depth of Baikal should be equal to the thickness of the earth's crust and be more than 40 km. https://vasily1986.livejournal.com/66774.html
    11. It is possible that deep-sea lakes, seas and rivers, as well as depressions in the oceans, are the result of successive explosions in a crack in the ridge, followed by a sinkhole. https://clck.ru/35CyUd
    a) After the formation of lakes, gorges and canyons, the banks should converge, not diverge.
    b) The rate of convergence of the banks of the reservoir depends on the pressure of the soil on the outer walls of the reservoir, and the greater the depth, the greater the pressure. https://clck.ru/34yUCP
    12. I believe that the Red and Adriatic Seas, lakes Baikal and Tanganyika were formed as a result of the failure of the earth's crust https://clck.ru/34yQpG
    a) The appearance and depth of the formed reservoir depends on the depth and shape of the hearth, and on the nature of the failure.
    13. The assertion that the lithospheric plates compress Africa from the east and west, due to which Africa splits into two parts, contradicts elementary logic.
     
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  10. Fermer05 Registered Senior Member

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    It is believed that cells are formed in the mantle, at the junctions of lithospheric plates, in which, due to convection, magma rotates at a speed of 1-5 cm per year.
    The assertion that lithospheric plates move due to magma gates that rotate at the junctions of lithospheric plates is questionable.
    Thanks to currents, eddies and magma-gates, only pits can form in the earth's crust, and not the drift of continents and "lithospheric plates". https://images.app.goo.gl/yS56u6oYvaMtavLi6
    Questions arise:
    1. How many cells move the lithospheric plate and how are they synchronized?
    b) How are tectonic, lithospheric and continental magma-rotations synchronized? https://images.app.goo.gl/Lf2Xa6tYhE9JF4J99
    2. What do magma-turns rely on when moving lithospheric plates?
    a) Motion without support, contradicts the two-body problem - Newton's Third Law.
    "The force of action is equal to the force of reaction."
    b) Moreover, magma-turns themselves will repel from the lithospheric plates in the opposite direction. Since, lithospheric plates are much more massive than magma-rot.
    c) oceanic and magmatic currents are too weak to move lithospheric plates or affect the axial velocity of the Earth.
    3. The width of the crack of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is several meters, and the distance between the continents is several thousand kilometers.
    4. The total length of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge is more than 18 thousand km. and is broken by transverse faults up to 600 km long.
    https://images.app.goo.gl/cHbdb1i6RSeqDe7z6
    a) what is the total length of the magma gate, under the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, and how does the magma gate affect transverse faults? https://images.app.goo.gl/cqn26EqbMcoqATp66
    5. In North America, the movement of the Juan de Fuca ridge was observed for two years: no movement of the ridge was found.
    http://www.evgengusev.narod.ru/spb/zhirnov-2011.html
    6. What is the coefficient of adhesion of a convective cell (magma vortex) to a tectonic plate?
    a) The adhesion coefficient of a convective cell with a tectonic plate can be checked by rotating two red-hot magma gates in a heated dish.
    b) With what force two magma gates are pressed in the cell and why do they not destroy each other?
    c) As the width of the fault increases, does the mass, size and location of the convective cell change.
    d) How many revolutions must a magma vortex make to move a tectonic plate by 1 cm?
    5. As the width of the fault increases, does the mass, size and location of the convective cell change.
    6. With what force do two magma gates press against each other in a cell, and why do they not destroy each other?
    7. It is believed that faults several tens of kilometers wide and more than 80 kilometers high stretch from the cell to the earth's surface.
    a) What fills the void in the faults?
    b) Why are the fault walls not destroyed?
    8. I believe that in the bowels of the earth, faults and trenches with a height of more than 11 km cannot exist, due to high pressure at great depths. (The pressure at a depth of 40 km is 103 MPa). The Mariana Trench has an average width of 69 km and a depth of up to 11 km. https://clck.ru/34vvMD a) Why are the gutters conical?
    7. Why, along the perimeter of the Atlantic Ocean, did not a ring of fire form, as in the Pacific Ocean?
     
  11. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Because there is no subduction zone there, you fool. Try reading what the theory says, before attempting to dream up your own.

    By the way, magma only forms in isolated pockets, where the regime of pressure and temperature allows it. Look up "zones of partial melting". The convection cells in the mantle are not circulations of magma, but of solid rock, deforming plastically under pressure. Do your homework.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There is no purpose to any of those things. There is no purpose to gravity, Coriolis forces, radioactive decay, or any of the other forces that drive the motions of the air, sea and land.
     
  13. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Is this an example of non-Eurocentric "science"?

    Or an updated revival of a Slavic, Rus, or other regional indigenous population group belief that existed prior to Western incursion and its systemic oppression of other cultures?

    If so, try framing it in a "decolonization of knowledge" context the next time you submit the idea to a journal.

    The progressive capitalist white patriarchy often becomes disoriented and confused when confronted with past (and current) grievances, and entanglement in their ensuing guilt-trips. Never mind slipping an unvetted Tonka truck past the guards; you could probably drive a Caterpillar 797F through the academic gates when the administrators get into a virtue posturing contest with each other over who is the [most social justice] noblest of all.

    Some old world heritage input would be nice -- stuck with Pacific islander and North American theories as potential prospects for now...

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2010/12/14/928912/-

    There’s another story about the New Madrid Earthquake from Alabama. Shawnee leader Tecumseh had been visiting the Creek in an attempt to gain their support for a rebellion against the Americans. When he left the Creek village of Tuckhabatchee he told the Creek Chief Big Warrior that when he returned to Michigan he would stamp his foot and that the earth would shake the Creek village. In about the length of time it would have taken Tecumseh to return to his Michigan home, the ground at Tuckhabatchee shook from the New Madrid Earthquake.

    In 1870, the Wanapum prophet Smohalla predicted that an earthquake would shake the ground to announce the displeasure of the Great Spirit in the way the people were living. Soon after a major earthquake struck the Chelan in north central Washington....
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  14. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    A very ingenious suggestion. It might actually work!

    In fact, I am noticing more and more crank ideas on these forums that seem to be driven by nationalism. Tony Yuan seems to be a recent example. I have also come across quite a number of Indian cranks trying to generate "alternative" science. This is a fairly new development, that may be associated with Modi's rather ugly Hindu nationalism. I would not be at all surprised to see some kind of "Slav science" appear, as a result of Putin's effort.

    I don't think this is it, though. I think he's just a crank.
     
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  15. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    I agree. For now, just using DoK to poke a bit of fun at these things. Though in the future I expect it will be a banner commonly carried by exotic as well as domestic renegades.
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  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    No, they are not.
     

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