The elements, science, and epestemiology

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  1. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    The elements have evolved from air fire wind and water to the periodic table.

    we know how they react individually and for the most part together.

    Yet there is a huge divide on how (encompassing all of them) act.

    Our belief system is a huge part of this divide. Those who are atheist believe this science to be known without having to go through the experiment. Marking it as a failure.

    those who believe in god typically believe in something whimsical.

    While those who are agnostic… well have various beliefs.

    so what do you believe?
     
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  3. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn’t say whimsical. Not all theists believe that their spiritual beliefs and science are incapable of coexisting.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What is your actual question? We currently know of 118 elements. What does this have to do with religion?

    What do you mean that an atheist believes in the science behind the elements without having to go though the experiment and a theist believes in whimsy?

    Is this another one of those science is just a belief topics?

    I think most everyone agrees with the elements in the periodic table.
     
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  7. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    It’s not a question. An atheist believes that all elements or even half will react violently when put together in the same viscidity, side by side and on top of one another. Did you see a question mark?
     
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I saw two parentheses where none were appropriate and I saw a post starting a thread that seemed to invite discussion yet there isn't really anything to discuss as far as I can tell.

    What does how elements react have to do with atheism? I don't think you actually know a lot about the periodic table do you? There are areas that are reactive and areas that aren't particularly reactive but so what?

    Sodium is reactive in water whether you are a theist or an atheist.

    You haven't even spelled epistemology correctly in the thread title and it seems, these days, that no one uses terms like "epistemology" unless they are a theist as they seem to like to use terms like that.

    The elements, science and opinion...is that supposed to be making some point?
     
  9. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Water is a compound.

    how is it that every element placed together completely escapes you mind?

    I’ve been asking this same question since I started on this forum…
     
  10. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Water is a compound. OK. So what?

    You still aren't asking a question. Every element placed together isn't a question.

    Exactly what question have you been asking since you started on this forum?
     
  11. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    What do you believe is the highest achievement chemistry can provide to the future?
     
  12. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    That's your question? That does that have to do with mixing all the elements together, religion, etc.

    I don't think in terms of chemistry and the highest achievement it can provide in the future. I think chemistry is pretty well understood already so I don't see any sudden surprises regarding chemistry and the future.

    I'm guessing you have some pet "theory" in this regard?
     
  13. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I’m guessing your atheist.
     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I can see why you have been asking some question for years and not getting an answer. Communication isn't your strong suite.

    Maybe Wegs is up to this challenge. I'm not.
     
  15. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Don’t be ashamed to admit your beliefs as they are.
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What beliefs? I'm not religious.
     
  17. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    You don’t have to be religious to have beliefs. Unless you disagree with the late Steven Hawking who believed the theory of everything could not exist, because everything can not be known.

    Therefore atheist.
     
  18. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Well, to be fair, the thread is in “free thoughts,” so it’s open to interpretation.

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  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Free thoughts not empty thoughts...

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  20. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I am an atheist but I don't see where that's got anything to do with the subject at hand. Beliefs are when the facts aren't known or where it's a subjective topic. The periodic table doesn't have anything to do with beliefs.
     
  21. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    So, apparently another Rorschach blot thread.

    At least the Black Monolith that the proto-humans were pondering did eventually have a function beyond what psychological settings and Xenia Cage's husband were limited to.
     
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  22. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    It works!
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    You mean our understanding of the elements has evolved?

    Between theists and atheists? What's the divide on the topic of how the elements react?
    What science are you referring to? I'll wager that atheists mostly will agree that our understanding of the elements was gathered with the help of experiment.
    About how elements react? What do they believe?

    Does that include theists who are scientists?
    So your claim is that one's belief determines one's views on how elements react. Is that a correct summary?

    Perhaps you should attempt to support your claim.

    Mostly, I believe what the chemists tell me about how elements react. How about you?
     

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