The fatal flaw in political Marxism

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  1. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Benny, could you please remove the entirely inappropriate, and off-topic "gore" photos in post 53.

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  3. BennyF Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, you can deny that the Nevada judge didn't have the authority to decide ACORN's guilt or innocence, you can deny that some of ACORN's people agreed to plead guilty to a Federal crime, and you can deny that the judge had the authority to sentence them, but it doesn't change the truth. ACORN's Nevada branch committed a crime during the 2008 election season, and it may have resulted in an incorrect result in the state and federal election results.


    You said that I probably admired a slave owner. That's what you said, that's what was incredibly stupid, and that's what I take personal offense at.


    You may very well attach a great deal of value to slight differences in skin color, facial features, etc. I do not. If a man is an S.O.B., he's going to be an S.O.B. no matter what he looks like. Likewise, if a man is a saint, then he's a saint, no matter what he looks like.



    "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance."
    - Thomas Jefferson, slave owner, U.S. President, the primary author of the Declaration of Independence, and father of millions of "mixed-race" people.

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  5. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Who set themselves on fire to protest excessive government regulation of corporations?
     
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  7. BennyF Registered Senior Member

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    Done. Their shock value must have been so high, it was a threat to your peace of mind.

    Now tell me what you're doing to find and stop the Marxists in our government, who are a much bigger threat to our way of life than a few nutcases who've changed their bodies with knives and tattoo needles.
     
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  8. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    There are no Marxists in our government. Being aware of the plight of the middle class in our country is not Marxist. I could easily call what you want fascism, but that gets us nowhere.
     
  9. elte Valued Senior Member

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    A label interferes with the ability to look at the person in question fairly.

    It took me far too long to realize that I had a pretty primitive view of society back in my competitive days. Now I am a socialist because at least a system that longs for good in people has more hope than one that expects them to behave badly.
     
  10. BennyF Registered Senior Member

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    The following link is to an article that was published prior to the passage of the Health Care Law.

    The three paragraphs after it are three of the seven governmental policies identified by the author of the website as being Marxist.
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    The Top 7 Marxist Policies Being Implemented by Obama Today

    "Stripping Capitalists Of Their Assets

    According to US bankruptcy code, secured creditors such as the ones who have outstanding debt against Chrysler and GM, have to be paid before unsecured creditors. That is the law. Obama has ignored this law, and seized the vast majority (89% in GM's case) of all "asset value" of the automakers and taken direct control or given it away for free to the unions. Karl Marx's theses were all based on the workers owning the means of production, and thus communism takes hold in America.



    Changing The Structures Of Government To Suit

    Obama has given the GOP until October to approve his health care plan which many experts have shown, would be as socialized as Cuba's. If the Republican Party does not meet his demands, the Democratic Party will simply change the very rules of the United States Senate to pass their legislation through simple majority, instead of the 60% which has been required by the Senate through history. Changing legislation to suit the leader is another common tactic of communist leaders from Chavez to Castro.



    Taking Advantage Of A Crisis To Impose Communism

    Obama's Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel published a book entitled The Plan which would require (yes, require) young Americans regardless of their political stripe to serve in a direct copy of Hugo Chavez' red-beret local militias. The Plan also promotes massive taxpayer funded programs as universally free university tuition and health care as well as a tax reform to ensure that the middle and upper classes are crushed by the enormous new government expenditures. Obama has already admitted such a "soak anyone making over $250,000/year" punitive tax policy. Emanuel is famous for his quote "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste…(it’s) an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before," which is the prototypical process whereby communists seize power, witness Lenin, Mao, Castro, Tito, et al.
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  11. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you. It was no threat to me...I've seen a lot worse...however we do have an audience made of people of all ages. It is common practice to hide images that are graphic behind links, and not directly post them...that is if they are germane to the discussion. Those had nothing to do with topic....which doesn't surprise me...since non-sequitars are your specialty.
    Senator McCarthy and I have teamed up and formed a "pinko-busting" squad. We even got matching sets of Jack boots and t-shirts that say "No Sense of Decency".

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  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    How are you a socialist?
     
  13. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I'm starting to think we're having two entirely different conversations

    You need to learn a little bit about voter registration fraud. This has been a particular problem with ACORN critics. I'll stand on my prior record regarding this subject, since it certainly applies squarely here:

    #2290196/74 (June, 2009)

    #2116892/41 (December, 2008)​

    Why do you take offense?

    You seem to have missed the point: Regardless of what you or I might think about the color of another person's skin, ethnic heritage is observably consequential in American society.

    That was expected.
     
  14. John99 Banned Banned

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    No one here is a socialist.

    I think that throughout history there must have been maybe 3 socialists.
     
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh boy.

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    He's got me on ignore, somebody PLEASE point out how much of an idiot he's being.
     
  16. elte Valued Senior Member

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    I mean in a general sense that I want to try to do what i can to move civilization to allow everyone to have better lives together.
     
  17. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Sure...no problem bud:

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  18. elte Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think the ignore feature on forums is very helpful.
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    Thats already part of human nature.
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    In some humans.
     
  21. elte Valued Senior Member

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    I find it lacking too much.
     
  22. John99 Banned Banned

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    Do you give to the poor?
     
  23. elte Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed, the poor and rich are needy in certain ways.
     

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