# The fifth law of movement: the wheel effect

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by Asexperia, Nov 24, 2018.

1. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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THE FIFTH LAW OF MOVEMENT: THE WHEEL EFFECT

Movement is the change of place (CPL) or position (CP) of some body. Movement and deformation are the effects of the action of a force. The fifth law of movement proposes the conversion of circular movements (CP) into displacement (CPL). This law does not apply to fans because there is no displacement.

Let's see the following cases:

1- The tires of a car, while rotating (CP), displace (CPL).

2- The propellers of an airplane or those of a helicopter, while rotating (CP), displace (CPL).

3- The Earth, which rotates on its own axis (CP), displaces around the Sun (CPL).

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3. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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The Newton's laws

1- Inertia law
2- Fundamental law of Dynamics (F = m.a)
3- Action - reaction law
4- Law of the universal gravitation

5. ### sideshowbobSorry, wrong number.Valued Senior Member

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Why don't you learn how physics works before you try to add to it?

7. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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This law occurred to me looking at the tires of the cars while I was at the bus stop.

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8. ### originHeading towards oblivionValued Senior Member

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That doesn't change what sideshowbob said.

9. ### river

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Sure

But look more closely on how to maintain the tires !

Air presseure and ambient temperature , matters . The Season , tonage etc.

10. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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This law doesn't consider those variables.

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It dosen't

12. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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The fundamental law of Kinematics is: S = d / t

13. ### exchemistValued Senior Member

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.....and I'm a teapot.

14. ### Janus58Valued Senior Member

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Cases 1 and 2 are examples of the Newton's third law: In case 1, the tire surface touching the road surface exerts a force pushing back on the road resulting in a forward force on the tire/car. In case 2, the propellers/rotors grab air as a result of the their pitch, pushing the air in one direction which exerts a force on the aircraft in the other. (if the pitch of the blades were zero, then no amount of rotation of the blades would result in forward motion or lift.)

In case 3, there is no connection between the Earth's rotation and its orbit around the Sun. The Earth could rotate faster/slower, in the opposite direction, or not at all, and the still orbit the Sun just as it does.

In none of the cases you give is there is the amount of displacement due to the rate of rotation alone. For the tire, it also depends on the radius of the tire, for the propeller/rotor, it depends on the pitch, and for the Earth there is no relationship at all.

At most, there is some correlation between rotation and displacement in two of the cases, but this is not enough to even start talking about a "law".

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15. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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What would be the correct formula in the case 1?

D is displacement
rs is rotation speed

Is the radius directly proportional to the displacement?

16. ### originHeading towards oblivionValued Senior Member

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$\Delta S = \Theta r$

17. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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I thought it was easier. There are many kinds of movement.

There is only one time, so it is easier to study it.

18. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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EDITION TO THE OPENING POST

THE FOURTH LAW OF DYNAMICS: THE WHEEL EFFECT

Movement is the change of place (CPL) or position (CP) of some body. Movement and deformation are the effects of the action of a force. The fourth law of movement proposes the conversion of circular movements (CP) into displacement (CPL). This law does not apply to fans because there is no displacement.

This law applies:

1- In the rims of a car, at the same time they rotate (CP), they move (CPL).
2. A wheel on an inclined plane.

19. ### river

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Clouds have rotation as well . I've seen them . Very interesting .

Last couple of days , I have seen , what I would call spokes of clouds , with a center . Never seen this before .

20. ### AsexperiaValued Senior Member

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Did you take a picture?

21. ### river

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No

Unfortunately .

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23. ### river

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Thanks but no it was different than this .

No storm came about . Some rain . But not heavy rains nor heavy winds .

The clouds had spokes coming out of the center . Defined but not too defined , but obvious .

If I see this cloud formation again I will take pictures .