The Mueller investigation.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Quantum Quack, Feb 17, 2018.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    the elephant in the room now we see the massive amount of effort thrown into spying on usa citizens by other usa citizens

    it looks like they could not get into hilarys server so they spat the dummy and cried all the way to the election rallys.

    the obvious only legitimate counter to this reality would be proposing a change of law so all government departments, agency's & politicians & political partys, have their servers all run by a central agency that is able to look into what ever they like.

    Stasi ... ? lol!

    playing the transparency card as a false narrative to justice exploiting outside acts of violence to target the citizenry victims...
    i think that is purely dishonest

    ... how dare they have secrets i told you women could not be trusted !
    if the usa average republican was not such a misogynist pig it would not have won the election in the swing states. it would have lost the election.
    but they eat it up likes the pigs at the trough they are
    they wanted to believe it.
    it made them feel vindicated and validated
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  3. Vociferous Registered Senior Member

    Since he didn't indict her, there's really no way of knowing if he could convict. Besides, indictment is often sufficient in politics. He had plenty of evidence for both, had he not made up the intent excuse.
    Again, intent was never a criteria for that crime. Only negligence. Crimes of intent and negligence are mutually exclusive. You cannot be intentionally negligent. Either you have intent or you're negligent in any wrongdoing.

    I'm baffled that I even have to spell this out for you, as a simple understanding of basic English really should suffice.
    Or get someone in the executive branch to reinterpret laws only the judiciary should be reinterpreting. Apparently you don't even understand the separation of powers, but then leftists never have respected the Constitution (except cherry-picking parts that temporarily suit their agenda).
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  5. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

    were any of them involved in that recent nuclear explosion near or in the Urals and the recent Nuke Submarine melt down...
    If they were then they may find the Siberian Gulag makes a great laboratory...for the study of Sodium Chloride close up... I guess... lol

    How many Russian scientists does it take to get a Vodka still working?

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  7. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

    It depends on the circumstances. Say, if there is a real war, and the US defense weapons do not work as promised, some US soldiers can, indeed, end up with singed hair and melted skin. But this same failure makes it less probable that the civilians of the attacked country end up with singed hair and melted skin.

    Corruption has, last but not least, an aim - the participants want to make money or get some other advantages (like no persecution of their crimes) and they don't care about the interests of the state or the taxpayers. Taking away money from the state, as well as preventing things considering useful by the state to be done (like imprisoning criminals) is, of course, harmful. But there is no evil intention to harm the state or so which would lead to singed hair and melted skin. Instead, as the corrupt politician, as well as the criminal who prevents imprisoning or the businessman selling cheap things for big money to the state is happy with the state remaining as it is.
    No. I simply do not care about the interests of the US American people, given that they support all the aggressions of all the US governments. I would not support war crimes like bombing towns far behind the frontlines to terrorize the civil population, which is a usual technique of US wars, even as a reaction to US aggression. But once the US becomes increasingly corrupt, it is their own fault - once they elect such corrupt politicians, there is no one else to blame, it is a democracy, not?

    In general, I know very well that corruption is bad for the population. Positive effects are unintended side effects, especially if corruption is the way police handle state wars against victimless crimes like prostitution, porn, drugs and so on. These are exceptions, not the rule.
    Nice description of the actual situation. The state is ruled by two essentially equally corrupt parties, and competitors have no real chance. We can even leave you your vote as long as you continue to vote for the corrupt politicians sold to you by our corrupt mass media.
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    can the government as an employer invade your personal life and trawl for breaches of employment policy using the court system ?

    is that american ?
  9. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

    In America, if the government decides it has enough evidence to convict you of murder, but fails to win the conviction in court, they could later find a signed photo of you committing the murder, covered in both your blood and that of the victim, and you still wouldn't be placed back on trial because of the double jeopardy clause, can't be tried twice for the same crime. In Russia, folks like Schmelzer skin baby kittens alive if it's found convenient to blame them for the economic malaise (after putting them on trial and first giving the lil' fur balls a chance to answer for their heinous crimes, of course).
  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Not even close. The Republican Party is far more corrupt, and corrupted - has been for decades now.

    They even elect their corrupters to the offices themselves - eliminating the middleman, intensifying the role of corruption, as the Mueller report partly documented simply as a side implication, without even needing to focus.
    Often there is - as we see in the demolition of Federal scientific, regulatory, and enforcement agencies that impose on the wealthy, such as the IRS, SEC, EPA, FDA, etc into the hundreds.
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  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Another wrinkle in the Mueller report tapestry:

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