The Politics of Mass Murder: American Conservatism and Domestic Terrorism

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  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Sherrilyin Ifill↱:

    So yes, let's deal w/the insane access to weapons of war. But don't say "it's all about guns." Because they used to hang us from trees in front of the courthouse. They have killed us w/swords in Manhattan, dragged us behind cars in Jasper, Tx. They have beaten us to death.

    They have chased us into traffic in Howard Beach, and kneeled on our necks in Minneapolis. They've run us over with cars. The poison of white supremacy has been attached to every instrumentality of violence. And yes, guns are uniquely deadly, & we must address it urgently.

    But so too is white supremacy. It is used to manipulate elections, to destroy public education, to deny disaster relief, to justify starving babies, to poison communities, to destroy empathy, to deny the truth, to steal land, & has the power to turn people into murderers.

    So let's all get to work - on addressing gun access for sure. But white ppl must address the spread of white supremacist ideology by politicians, in primetime on cable TV, on the internet, in schools, in your churches and homes. It is a threat to our lives, and to your humanity.

    But white supremacy is also an existential threat to our democracy. It always has been.

    David Rothkopf↱:

    It's the guns, but it's not just the guns. It's the racism, but it's not just the racism. It's the misogyny, but it's not just the misogyny. It's the attacks on democracy but it's not just the attacks on democracy.

    It's the assault on the truth, on teaching history and science, but it's not just the assault on the truth and facts and reality and banning books. It's the corruption but it's not just the corruption and the cover-ups and the obstruction of justice and the gaming of our courts.

    What happened in Buffalo is not just about some isolated shooter, some deranged sociopath. He was fueled by an ideology of hate promoted by an American president, by a leading American news channel, by an entire US political party.

    His brutality was enabled by decades of massive spending, some of it from enemies like Russia, to not just promote guns in the US but to twist & pervert the interpretation of the Second Amendment to turn America into one of the world's most dangerous, self-destructive societies.

    He was part of the very same movement that has political candidates blocking access to the press, offering up the same right wing catechism of hate, seeking to block access of people of color to the polls, seeking to deny gay Americans the right to love whom they want.

    From Murdoch to Trump to McConnell to Alito flows the ideology of the superiority of whites...but not just of whites but of white males...and not just of white males but of white Evangelical Christian males. But their mantras and slogans of racial, cultural superiority...

    ...are accompanied by other doctrines promoting fear of minorities, of white replacement theory gleefully promoted by Tucker Carlson & other despicable lunatics, of racist myths about brown babies in need of formula or caravans of "the other" assaulting our southern borders.

    They are not just systematically trying to deny power and basic human rights from control of their own body to the ability to cast a vote to determine the future of the nation in which they live to those with whom they disagree, they are working daily to drown out other views.

    They preach "free speech" as a cover for seeking discourse on the web that can promote snake oil and race war & that can destroy the reputations of their enemies even as they seek to quash elements of history, realities of scientific truth, that don't fit their warped worldview.

    Compounding their hypocrisy is that the people for whom they assert they are fighting are just dupes, pawns they use to maintain power so the leaders of the movement and its funders can profit, can rig our system to promote inequality and to enhance already obscene riches.

    They promote conspiracy theories to distract from the fact that so much of what they do that seems isolated is actually connected, is all part of a plan, is all part of one, coherent, thought out, decades old right wing agenda.

    The Buffalo shooting and political candidates selling hate, the SCOTUS decision on abortion and our insane gun laws, our national gun pathology (that the court will only make worse) and banned books in elementary schools and Texan abuse of COVID funds and...

    DeSantis throwing reporters out of public meetings and Hawley giving the thumbs up to insurrectionists and Barr blocking prosecution of Trump for obstruction of justice and Ivanka and Jared making millions while in office and groveling to the Russians and...

    ..blackmailing Ukraine and both impeachments and Congressional Xmas cards featuring kids with assault weapons and threats to hang the Vice President of the United States and the Tree of Life shooting and the babies in cages at the border and...

    ...tax cuts for billionaires and Elon Musk's reasons for wanting to take over Twitter and the wink and the nod to the murder of Khashoggi and failing to help Puerto Rico after a hurricane or California after devastating fires and...

    lying about COVID and promoting horse medicines for people and bleach into your veins and the pillow salesman and the crazies on the right in Congress and 63 Republicans voting not to support Ukraine and Rand Paul blocking aid to that country and...

    ...Citizens United & Shelby County & the packing of the court and Ginni Thomas helping to promote the Big Lie and the coup and attacking the Squad and "lock her up" and calling people "pedos" and all of it...all of it...is the work of one movement, one that is destroying the US.

    The funders are the same, the leaders are the same, the media mouthpieces are the same, the actions compound the effect of other actions, the grassroots supporters are the same and the consequences for each of us, for our society, for our democracy are equally dire.

    To defeat them takes seeing the scope of what is happening for what it is...seeing their intents are to compound the past with further abuses, attacks on our rights, institutionalization of their minority view, suppression of the will of the majority of us.

    It will require us to be as systematic as they are and as thorough. It requires not just winning races but undoing the damage they have done, restoring core principles to the operations of our government and of our society, ideas like equal justice under the law and decency,

    tolerance and one person one vote, defending the truth and common sense, honesty and the willingness to fight within the parameters of the law to defend what we value. We must do all that. It won't be easy. The outcome is not guaranteed. The risks are immense.

    But it all begins with seeing the big picture, recognizing the links, identifying the origins of this tragic chapter in our history.

    There is a lot there, but it really isn't new. Look at Ifill's first tweet, about hanging, swords, dragging, and beating, about not saying it's all about guns, and then consider that the first response to that tweet tried to challenge her by pointing out↱, "George Floyd, Freddie Gray weren't killed by guns."

    Of Rothkopf, we might consider something someone said to me last year; actually, I encountered two different versions of it, but the point has to do with someone telling you they do not sympathize with or belong to white supremacist organizations. And that kind of mitigation is transparent: It's the Southern Strategy in the flesh. Or think of the idea that it is impossible that a human being might fail to recognize an implication of what they say and do. No, no, read it again and think it through. We are to the point where we are expected to find it bizarre that someone might not recognize supremacism in their own outlook.

    Recalling press, pub, Thanksgiving dinner, and the Internet, the thing is that Rothkopf's spillover rant grasping after pretty much everything all at once is neither wrong nor unfamiliar. Even in our Sciforums community, we have seen, tolerated, accommodated, and even by our actions encouraged notorious, irrational, and supremacist speech and behavior. As a living experience, Rothkopf's description feels far too familiar, and it's not a nostalgic recollection; this has been going on my whole life. The more apparent it gets, the more determined American egotism becomes; when what passes for subtlety is the point of fixing what is wrong according to the perspectives of people who labor to deny the problem, i.e., centrist technocracy defined by neoliberal denialists, it ought to be impossible to ignore the deep shit we're in.

    Still, watch people try.
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    Notes:

    @djrothkopf. "It's the guns, but it's not just the guns. It's the racism, but it's not just the racism. It's the misogyny, but it's not just the misogyny. It's the attacks on democracy but it's not just the attacks on democracy." (thread) Twitter. 15 May 2022. Twitter.com. 15 May 2022. https://bit.ly/3PnfKLq

    @EllenEnders. "George Floyd, Freddie Gray weren't killed by guns". Twitter. 15 May 2022. Twitter.com. 15 May 2022. https://bit.ly/3sCJDO6

    @Sifill_LDF. "So yes, let's deal w/the insane access to weapons of war. But don't say 'it's all about guns.' Because they used to hang us from trees in front of the courthouse.They have killed us w/swords in Manhattan, dragged us behind cars in Jasper, Tx. They have beaten us to death." (thread) Twitter. 15 May 2022. Twitter.com. 15 May 2022. https://bit.ly/3le80gY
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Stephen Thrasher↱ observes, "in AP copy, 18-yeear-old Michael Brown was an '18-year old Black man,' while 18-year-old Payton Gendron is a 'white teenager.'"

    The AP style book is constantly under reconsideration and revision, so it is easy enough to think cautiously, that something in the style book changed, but eighteen is also a station of adulthood; one is allowed to vote, and also serve in war combat. It would be a complicated and subtle explanation to blame the style book.

    And if the inclination is to suggest it is a small detail, well, that, too, is part of how we got here, and how we achieve these body counts.
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    Notes:

    @thrasherxy. "Noting that in AP copy, 18-yeear-old Michael Brown was an '18-year old Black man,' while 18-year-old Payton Gendron is a 'white teenager.'". Twitter. 15 May 2022. Twitter.com. 15 May 2022. https://bit.ly/3laC64S
     
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i wonder if they know what an existential threat to anything is.
    we can see what the russiaan teenagers lead by serial killers in the russian military are doing.

    the other replacement of accountability is "male"
    as if asserting the male as being a replacement of adult
    strange culture

    a-wash with guns and white supremacy in a pressure cooker of user pays right-wing capitalist selfishness and lack of empathy, hard boiled with religious backed xenophobia & fear.

    i think this will be the start of more as the mental illness created and nurtured by extremism and society with covid will be creating on a low boil just waiting for that little something to push it over the edge.

    but it seems the wider American society are prepared to sacrifice a certain number of civilians in exchange for being a-wash with guns.

    but you need guns to protect yourself from guns now in usa, so the cycle is complete & the snake is eating its head.

    p.s
    i expect as a sense of hopelessness starts to dawn on the american younger population that these types of acts will become more common
    on one hand there is the ever decreasing circles of extremism
    on the other is climate change stalking the way of how things work in society
    as that pressure builds on limiting the dreams of youth.

    a lack of altruistic moral careers in the American society

    the last few years of hyper nationalism has been cooking these type of children
     
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