The possibility of making consciousness!

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  1. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    I think I speak for myself when I say you should already know my answer.

    No conscious animal uses any element above iron to sustain their being.
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ?

    above = periodic table ?
    nuclear weight
    proton count ?
    etc etc
    what does "above" mean ?

    is the re any known life form that DOES NOT use iron ?

    iron is compulsory in all earth based life forms ?

    is that because iron is compulsory
    or because iron is always present so all life MUST contain iron
    as some type of connection process like lego(connector teeth/protein limbs etc etc)) etc

    or something or something else and entirely including with or without
     
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  5. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Artificial consciousness is made from every element under lead.

    particle beam welder astronaut suit
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    The answer is "sex"

    And the pick up line for impregnation is, of course, the thread's title.

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  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what type of electricity will you jump start it with ?

     
  9. Beaconator Valued Senior Member

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    Should make it’s own...

    How does the human body make electricity?
     
  10. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Which reminds some human consciousness may require eating at some point.
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    & how long does that take in complex brain animals ?
    minimum 9 months to birth
    but how long to basic formation ?
    3 years ?
    5 years ?

    i don't think there is a simple 1 size fits all answer to suggest chemical creation of electrical current is going to create a complex brain wave etc

    the illusion might be the concept of instantly creating a an advanced adult brain entity

    that is probably not possible

    who do you plan to give this technology to ?
    all the rich greedy selfish psychopaths ?

    or the frenzied religious mobs ?

    or some intellectual and moral one of their ilk dressed in a business suit calling themself a corporation ?

    the rich greedy psychopath leaders wont feed house and given medical care to the current existing population

    why are trying to create more life ?
    to create more suffering ?
     
  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    Food

    PooP

    what goes in must come out
    physics laws

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  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, it isn't. AFAIK iron is primarily used as an oxygen carrier in the blood. That's why it is Red (hemoglobin).

    However, octopuses and other deep ocean dwellers use copper for oxygen carrier in their blood . That's why it is Blue. (hemocyanin)

    hemocyanin
    ........much more..!

    https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...od-antarctica-octopus-animals-science-colors#
     
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  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Eating brains to acquire consciousness?........

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  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    octopus body's probably have iron atoms in them .... ?
    or none ?

    as a life form, are octopus devoid of the element iron ?
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No, apparently not.
    Octopus is a good source of:
    https://www.webmd.com/diet/health-benefits-octopus#1

    Table 4; Iron content in Octopus hubbsorum Berry, 1953
    (g/100g dry basis)............ Acapulco............. Cabos a*............ Cabos b**
    Iron....................................... 0.008.................. 0.008................. 0.011
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  17. Hercules Rockefeller Beatings will continue until morale improves. Moderator

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    Copper? Zinc? Iodine? And more trace elements.....
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Minerals: MedlinePlus
    https://medlineplus.gov/minerals.html#
     
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    Right. So, in other words, elements with an atomic mass larger than iron.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Very not true.

    This should be trivially obvious, knowing that
    - copper (used to make red blood cells) is element 29
    - zinc (a vital micronutrient) is element 30,
    - iodine is element 53,

    but in case you want the full list:

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  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    What is it you're trying to say?

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    Minor correction. Should read : copper (used to make blue blood cells) Haemocyanin.

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    I don't know their atomic weights but there are a total of 4 different known blood oxygen carriers! Clear proof of natural selection.

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    https://www.vox.com/xpress/2014/10/31/7133779/blood-blue-green-purple
     
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  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Correction unjustified.

    "Copper works with iron to help the [human] body form red blood cells. It also helps keep the blood vessels, nerves, immune system, and bones healthy."

    "Copper is essential for the synthesis of [human] collagen. This is found in connective tissue, which is the main supporting and binding tissue of the body. Copper is also needed for healthy muscle tone and function and so plays a vital role in the heart. Copper deficiency can lead to heart failure."

    - Google
     
  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I don't disagree with that, but that is not what you posted.
    It is not the copper that makes red blood cells , it is the iron (hemoglobin) that makes the blood cells red, not the copper.
     
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