The Post Whatever Thread

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by serenesam, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    This whole thread is you asking yourself a question.
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    if that makes you feel better then i have done you a favor

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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks. It doesn't make me feel better or worst. If posting to yourself makes you feel better then, great. I'm happy for you.

    I'm just responding to your post and pointing out that the answer is "yes" rather than "no". Just consider this another "post event".
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    whos reality do you wish to alter ?
    i get a distinct feeling from your response that your wishing to game the dark side
    thats not my thing
    if that record is stuck, maybe you can un-stick it as freely as it got stuck in the 1st place.
     
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not interested in altering reality. I'll leave you to your word-salad though. Enjoy.
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    im still a bit upset with 1 of my bosses
    [how many bosses do i have?(its a big list)]
    but im not entirely sure what it is that is upsetting me

    1 the fact he took out his frustration on me by raising his voice and asserting a lie that i was doing something wrong in front of another person to make himself feel like he was in control
    2 the fact he tried to lie to me by pretending i didn't know what technology i was talking about when he didn't really understand it as well as i did as he lied out loud to make the other person think he knew and what i was saying wasn't true
    3 the fact he directed anger at me when it was his own personal emotions
    4 the fact i did not call him out and tell him to shove his job up his ass
    5 the fact i don't really want such things to bother me but im partially human so i have partial human emotions(only human... give respect as one expects it to be received)
    6 im fairly sure i am mixing in some other issues which is more about my need for career progression which is completely unrelated to him.

    i want to like him
    maybe it is a style issue compounding the emotional crossed wires of both our positions at that time

    hhmmm
    maybe there is a bit of transference{which is like trying to map chaos theory} in me because i feel the need to smash anyone who trys to bully me in some way[& i was thinking about a different work issue somewhere else that was partially pervading our business relationship](violence[verbal or physical] is rarely the best answer)
    im looking for the win/win(theorizing)
     
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  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    How can you even think about career progression when you are inept at sucking up.

    Two rules..Rule one..The Boss is always right. Rule two In cases of doubt refer to rule one.

    In all situations you need to have the ability to have everyone like which means all your time goes telling them how clever they are... and if you want to put your ideas forward make sure the other person thinks it was them who came up with the idea. It is always about them, you don't count in their lives just be ready to take over if they should fall down the stairs but don't be the first person on the scene when they recover conscienceness.
    Alex
     
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  11. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I’m sorry this happened today, Rainbow. Bullies at work (or anywhere) really can make life unnecessarily difficult. ((Hug))
     
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  12. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    thanks wegs
    it was not so much of a specific bully interaction but the sub narrative of emotional blame game projection was very bully normalization reinforcement for power drama queen issues
    i knew the boss was panicking after he had done this. he may have caught himself in the process and realised what he was doing.
    his job is very mentally interactive, almost 100% mental skill set & the spanner in the works was appearing to be sitting on my belt.

    we had good feelings before this
    bit of a not soo secret skeleton of annoyance in his closet that i know about that he was reminded of when this was happening.
    so i completely understand his potential "oh my god not again" moment interfering with his need to process certain unknown variables
    considering what he would have been reminded of was a mild level organisational clusterF of variable issues.

    im not looking for some excuse to cut out my pound of flesh
    im trying to understand precisely what it is that is annoying me so much to keep raising it in my mind.
    there must be a good lesson there which i am currently missing

    i have been concurrently targeted by a alcoholic paranoid power mad work place bully
    and a work place sociopath bully at the same time
    so i have a few miles of experience under my belt to draw on lol

    some peoples emotional reaction can be an action of bullying in an unconscious emotional reaction like a pain reaction
    this doesn't make them a bully
    my guess this was mostly driven from subconscious and conscious panic with an audience who he didn't want to hear any technical info that they may not need to know
    like a stage fright survival-ism kicking in

    but ... i dont claim to know him well enough to know that it was not all carefully directed and intended(not that i care that much as i can just tell him to go shove his job).
    what i know from experience is there is always a win win in these type of situations(non violent) & so i wish to unravel it & learn how to do the dance
     
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  13. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe he or simply the interaction triggers you in some way? Maybe dredging up in your mind a past event that haunts you? It’s often not the bully that’s the problem but the bully taps into some other thing we’re hanging on to. My best guess lol
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    there are levels
    also age range era's of general ability
    trends & cultures
    1 culture does not deal with the same situation as another culture does acting in a specific or non defined cultural mannerin1 culture can be direct actions to insult people(intentional or unintentional rarely matters once it gets to that point of ignorance).

    acting like the victim(victim blaming baiting the fascist to be the fascist & the self full filling prophecy to maintain power systems and avoid change of the system[oh so old worldy industrialist little kiddies digging coal])
    giving something to attach to
    American carry a big gun and waive it around to force people to give respect
    this is also a very A-typical baby boomer generation of moral equity where victim blaming is seen as a process of avoiding being victimized.

    to maintain the same point of validation for accountability i must inflict him with making him obey me to serve me the respect he has taken, otherwise he will take even more next time and it will be my fault ... again ?

    how many people think that is correct (accountability)


    i am well aware of many different types of predator prey relationships sexual, non-sexual, sexualised, non sexualised, cultural, domestic, 1st party acquaintance 2nd 3rd etc etc etc

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    was i baiting him ? possibly in a sense of paranoid schizophrenia, where the motive must come before the action

    the moment 1 person defines the need to assert their ego to be superior, the game is already half way through.

    if i had of called him on his bullshit it would have humiliated him in front of another person while on video camera(all of his own fault)

    you are saying i should have done this ?
    (im not 100% either way)[im an independent]


    a good person on a bad day
    verses a bad person on a normal day
    can you tell the difference ?

    what does the divorce(relationship separation rate) rate tell us about peoples ability to judge their closest of relationships ?
     
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  15. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    There's probably several things going on here. One, no one likes to have multiple bosses. It generally means you have less control of your work and it means that your day is at the whim of more than one person which can be annoying when you like to be in control.

    Maybe this isn't the best job situation for you or maybe you can do something about it by reducing the number of people that you have to deal with directly.

    If you have been friendly with this person generally and if they have been friendly with you generally in the past then maybe you need to make the point that this current incident today isn't acceptable by not being as friendly. Just be professional but not so friendly and maybe they will notice the difference and realize that they were acting in a way that you aren't going to put up with in the future.

    You could also talk to them about it the next time you run into them but do it in a private way and in a face saving way. In other words point out that you didn't really like the way things went down but down play the importance to you.

    The fact that you are bringing it up will let them know it's important. In other words if they say something like "sorry about that" your response/attitude would be "no big deal". The point would still be made and they would be less likely to embarass you in front of someone else next time.
     
  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what would you say if your boss was not reading this ? (aspects of free self expression & power & control)
     
  17. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    When do you consider someone "wealthy" or "rich"?



    tag team huh

    you and Seattle ... hhmmm...



    your boss ... Seattle
     
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  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Your response to my post is very odd to say the least.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Just on news, Germany is about to trial a 3 year living wage

    1,000 will get $1,500 and be compared against 1,000 who will not

    Sorry didn't catch all details but sure Mr. Google will have more than soon

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  20. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I’m not a tag team with Seattle. Maybe you should accept someone’s empathy at face value, instead of thinking the worst of them, Rainbow.
     
  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i was running point on his melt down for the impending cluster fuck
    but he was playing yesterdays game of keep it simple which was too stupid to get the task done today
    with an audience
    im more than happy to suck up and play his games to others
    but i wont lie down for a kicking just because he doesn't respect my knowledge & is throwing a tantrum when that bites him on the ass
    may as well find out sooner than later if his ego is hell bent of destruction
    im not going to play happy familys on a sinking ship at shit wages

    love your post its fantastic
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Is there a stair well where you work?
    Alex
     
  23. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    A Trump critic?



     
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