The psychology of atheists and theists

Discussion in 'Religion' started by James R, Aug 31, 2018.

  1. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    But it may.
    Could one not have confidence that a majority may well produce the goods.
    In any event its all to do with how you choose to look at stuff.
    Alex
     
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  3. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    More to the point, does the "morality in your brain" (which is certainly a bizarre manner to term it) develop and manifest independent of external influence?
     
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  5. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Then you are left open to the prospect of an abhorrent society powering on quite nicely under the jurisdiction of an equally abhorrent Super Ego.
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Of course not.

    But, if say, you believed the Adam and Eve thing as total truth, this exchange is pointless.
     
  8. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    I've got no idea what you are talking about.
     
  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Jan said the question was irrelevant when confronted with it. However: "I've got no idea what you are talking about" is rightfully my line. As you and Jan will not take a stance of "yes" or "no" on the matter...

    Do you believe the bible is the word of God and stuff?

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    Does Jan?

    :EDIT AGAIN:

    I mean, the two of you might hold hands at the Creationist Museum every Sunday after church for all I know.
     
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  10. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I thought democracy embraces the priciple of being guided by the majority.
    Alex
     
  11. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    You could probably save yourself from firing unnecessary synapses by dealing with individuals, as, well, individuals. I realize it's a bit difficult, being a card carrying atheist and all, that it's sometimes a bit difficult to look at things outside of conglomerates of us and them, but that is the price one has to pay if one wants to be relevant.
     
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  12. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    As a detail, the founders of modern-day democracy also went to some lengths expressing how it would only function adequately under a moral population.
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Well they would say that and so they should to remind folk of the responsibilty a democracy demands of its citizens.
    Alex
     
  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    It does seem however folk seem to like to believe they have a code or set of morals be they atheist or theist in my view.
    Folk fundamentally believe they are right and that their morals are virtuos and I feel most try and live to whatever code they follow.
    Alex
     
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  15. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The point is that democracy is not a framework to extract ideal behaviour from.
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Your abhorrent society. Your words, you define it.
    No, you are trying to deflect the question, as usual.
    No, no, that is a totally fabricated and false statement. Here are my words;
    Nothing about religious adherence.
    Be a man and apologize.
    Blah, blah.
    What exactly are you saying here? That I condone mass killings if committed for reasons other than religion?
    Show me where I cited a religiously based murder or war without reference to actual history. Stop your baseless and cheap innuendos. It does your cause for "truth in God" no favor.
    You are clearly entering a place where the busses don't run.......

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    I don't seek empowerment. Religions do. They were established to wield power over the "sheeple".

    And, IMO, declaring that God does not exist is logically a much firmer ground than declaring,
    "God IS". Wow..he IS? Well, then that solves the problem.......doesn't it?.....

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  17. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    ... and the good news is, it is also yours.

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    On the contrary, it's your major stumbling block whenever you attempt to discuss these issues.
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I abhor violence. If you also abhor violence we have a good thing in common, you as theist and I as atheist.
    No, no, the major stumbling block is that you have no evidence for your god when discussing these matters. It is you who is speculating and having to resort to deflection and obfuscation in order to try and intimidate "sheeple" into accepting god as their lord and saviour, unprovable entity.
    I don't need evidence or deflection, with me lack of evidence of a god is sufficient to prove my case.
    Moreover, recent scientific explanations of "origins" do not require the existence of a god.
    I'll stick with science in these matters......

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  19. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure how any of this relates to your ideas of religion and society, much less how your ideas of religion and society are coherent.
     
  20. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    But I'm not a "card carrying atheist" --I'm one of the people that has given you (and Jan) some of the least responses.

    I did, however, give you a straight forward answer and you did not return the favor.
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    If you get right down to it, you're really not sure of anything, including religion and society and your defense is almost wholly incoherent.
     
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Don't hold your breath......

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  23. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    LOL, there is even "honor amongst thieves", supposedly.......

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