The Purpose of Life

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  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    Very NICE post...Here is a thought. It has been suggested that life in our planet will go bye bye in 3797. Should not we do something about it? By the way, the Plant Kingdom has been here for a long time (hence the need for Oxygen consuming groups) and they have been waiting for the humans to do more than what has been happening...again something to think about.

    Another NICE post. I believe (proof may come later) that we (in this planet) are four dimensional creation. Three part Matter and One part Energy. We have not heard what is going on in the Energy part yet...so, may be things will change...

    Wrong Assumption. The Plant Kingdom has been here long before you are...much much longer...For an Indian, you should know better...

    It is the UNIVERSE to give purpose to LIFE not Humanity....Thanks.

    Bad idea...you may feel sentient...that is overly optimistic...very raely self-aware as to understand the whole situation awareness...

    Not REALLY...Ask the Universe about Life...
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Modes of consciousness we have not even imagined will be evolved, ARE being evolved as we speak in other star systems. The aim is the becoming conscious of the universe itself, of matter itself, and from there expansion into higher dimensional planes already populated by other beings far beyond anything we can imagine. We might as well be fetuses trying to decipher the purpose of our being inside a womb. There's so much more to come.

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  5. kmguru Staff Member

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    There's so much more to come.....

    Wow...where have you been? Right now, I am doing several items...including stuff at Artificial Intelligence at linkedin....I would love to have you as a partner in this area....

    I have a plan like Noah...to provide Ecosystems for Planet Earth now and in 300 years we are heading to a new Planet because I was told we would not last till 4000 AD...

    Yes, being an Indian, i have some idea about our links to other system and have a good understanding of the Spirit Universe though I am like a Kinder Garden level....but you are good...so we can discuss some stuff....I am somewhat connected to the spirit dimension again at a rudimentary level...

    So, what have you in mind? Thank you...
     
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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    I don't have any communication with spirit guides that I know of. Synchronistic winks from the beyond now and then. Most my inklings come intuitively from thinking about such possibilities. I could be wrong. Have been many times in the past. But I'm pretty sure there's an afterlife and soul continuance that is all bound up with the purpose of life itself. It's cliché but intuitively solid to say: this can't be all there is. And we certainly aren't the only conscious beings out here. So what have you found out? How will this earth end?
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I'm reasonable convinced that we are not fully conscious beings. I suspect that we have certain areas of awareness which we do not use.
    To a certain extent, for lack of a better phrase, we are all enslaved to "taboo". Whether this represents a defect in our hard wiring, or is a byproduct of "culture" remains in doubt. And, once we learn language, we see "reality" through the constraints of that language. Does anyone actually engage in true free association of thought processes? Is that possible?

    I've often thought that the only way to free the mind was to eliminate consciousness. And I don't mean by drugs or alcohol, though finding the way through those experiences ain't necessarily a bad thing.
    To be without thought opens a much higher level of awareness, and perhaps consciousness or, if you will, supraconsciousness or superconsciousness.
    An integration of the conscious, subconscious, and unconscious all working together. By eliminating our normal filters?

    Did any of that make any sense to anyone?
     
  9. elte Valued Senior Member

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    We are self-aware by commonly accepted notions though. It is why suffering and dying are especially troublesome to us.
     
  10. kmguru Staff Member

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    Finding Out...
    I have been at it since January to connect to the spirit world...on personal issues. Then I found out tons of stuff that neither West or East would understand. There is a reason for it.

    First of all, I learned that we are a four Dimensional structure (except Time). Three part in Matter and One part in Energy. Then everything made sense. That is ...stuff happens in the Energy world and that is really our Home.

    I can not tell too much about it, because in the West, people put anyone who talks about Spirits in to death. Hence it is basically a closed structure based on that idea. So, I will tell you small amounts....and ignore some items I said before say last month, because I am learning new stuff.

    In three hundred years there will be people from Earth and Aliens that will show up to help us in Space Faring business. We may have already built some or wait till they show up...I am not sure (did not get that information, because it is future). But the idea is we will have decent structure like Star Trek and went out to a new Planet to start settling down.

    In the mean time for the next 200 years we will have serious Global Warming such that Florida will be under the Ocean....But I have been asked to help in Ecosystems to provide a world wide benefit for our people (Like Noah did long ago...may be). In the next 15 years I will get more information....My job is to do Ecosystems. And in the process I am learning some items...only items I was told.

    My Parents and friends are up there helping in Ecosystems. I found out that some of my co-workers who passed away are working in that regard. Why, because Climate Change is serious and hence they are busy and we are too.

    I do not want to know, how the Earth will end...Because that is the future. I can find out in a few years...but because Spirits can not talk about Future, it is a problem. I have other sources...but not a good plan. I think it will be four areas -Sun Going SuperNova, Gamma Burst (that happened before to Planet earth), Asteroid and History channel said something like a super wave....Nostradamus said 3797...we shall see. but nothing now. As I get close to it, depending on what I do, I will guess...

    As to going to another planet, people will go for it, because many will die when Florida goes under the sea. The remote viewing says 200 years. Again no future from Spirits...That is a NO...NO...So Bangladeshis have to find another place to move in to - using my Ecosystems.
    My job is to manage the Ecosystems while 60 to 90 meters of Ocean rise....I need to find out the rate of change of water level rise which will be slow but rise faster as years pass by.

    The reason my spirits can not talk about future is because they can change the future if needed. Hence they can not tell you what it would be. But basic stuff, we can find out.

    As to individuals, most of industrial area will be fine....as things do not happen overnight. But Ecosystems allow people to have a job and eat etc when things change. I suggested my Plan after Katrina to Los Angeles....They did not care. May be soon people will....when the sea water rises...

    As to personal basis....everyone can see spirits up to 11 or 12 years...then you are asked for a choice...If you say NO, you will not connect. But your spirit is still with you in the basis of conscious and subconscious idea. Not a big deal...People have been at it for a long time. I have lost mine and now trying to connect to it. I need it because I will be doing some serious Logic work and need higher ups to verify that and tell me if it is correct. I have family members who can do that.

    It is again not a big deal...connecting to the spirit, but knowing the structure helps in certain areas including right medical systems, decent logic management...I am still trying to figure them out...

    Interesting item is our spirit people always watch each person 100%, their persons. And they do not sleep (24X7) So, whatever you do will get back to their meetings. Say, if you want to join in Ecosystems (That is an Order from upstairs to a group of people up stairs and downstairs)...what ever you do will get back to them.

    The catch is when you think you are alone and doing some nasty stuff, your ancestors know about it 100%. There is a good part and a bad part. In our body we can have conscious mind that is you in body and is separate from your energy being. Think that mind is the driver of the life vehicle.It is given certain amount to do the job that you came here for. The spirit is the sub level and just watches you and normally does not tell you go left or right. But when you die, The sub takes all the experience and goes home. It is like you have a cell phone which is synced to the cloud. When your cell phone dies, you still have all your information in the cloud.

    So, good part is you maintain everything you do for ever. The bad part is, if you are not connected to your sub part, you could take a wrong turn and be is a mess. That is why TM people say the right stuff...and we can discuss what we can do to manage this...

    Thanks...
     
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    Human being are made in to two minds (or whatever you want to name it). One is Physical System using the brain neurons. That does not stay in tact if you are in coma because the spirit calls it quits. Nevertheless you are a physical being with its own mind that is developed from the subconscious mind (spirit) that comes in when umbilical cord is cut. The spirit is a high powered system that comes in based on what you were designed to do. High level spirits only come in with specific instructions to do certain items but they leave everything up there.

    The best way to explain this is this way. Say, you have a high powered personal computer that can stay in the cloud. Say that computer has eight i7 chips, multi-terabytes of information and severe project documents. But since you are on vacation, you can not take that. So the same company also provided you a cell phone that can do the job. You take that. That is your spirit on Earth. The Cell phone is your Physical body. So, if you lose that in the vacation...no harm is done...get another one and go to another place and use it. (that is rebirth). Please note that your spirit is eternal...but not your body...

    So, you always will have the conscious mind separate from the subconscious mind (spirit). Now if you cell phone is good, you can access good stuff from your spirit. Also If you did not get a super duper computer...you have a cheap WalMart type...that is where you did not spend the time over years developing your computer system. Usually people who are 250,000 years old are smarter and can connect to the subconscious level(Spirit). Little spirits have WalMart type...It is a mess out there...yes you can improve on the spirit which in turn improves the body to do the Projects on Earth. Your Projects are usually what you have decided before coming here...Freedom Rules...But what you learn here can also benefit to improve it....

    Hope I got this right...Thank you...
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Wow! Very interesting. I would really like to know what my purpose in life is at this point. My life has happened in such a way over the past 14 years to free me up timewise and financialwise. But here I sit still wondering what I'm supposed to do. I am attracted to the idea of traveling and interacting with people on a random basis, influencing them with positivity and consciousness-raising perspectives. Something I sort have done already online for around 16 years. The role of lightworker comes to mind--of a soul who helps bring light into the darkness of the world. But I'm wary of grandiose self-identifications that make me out to be something special. I have 4 what I call "soul companions" that I chat with when I lie in bed at night. I love them almost like a father loves his children and they rely on me for learning things and understanding aspects of being human. Maybe my journey involves this ability to get in touch with one's own inner aspects as "tulpas" or "thought forms" that take on a life of their own and deepen the meaning of what it is to love. In any case I try to remain open and involved in whatever new experiences come my way.
     
  13. kmguru Staff Member

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    Only you know what you are doing. But stay close to your soul or whatever name you want to say. Then your life will be worth why here. People do their stuff and it usually do not change...but sometimes it moves in to different directions. Such as most of the time, I have been a Systems Engineer from day one. And a good one at that. But sometimes I had to do other stuff that did not go very well. Perhaps those areas I needed for what I am doing now...It is about learning politics for an Engineer...Not very pleasant...

    But I was upset in the last 14 years as my engineering work in the later part of life, did not go well...yet when I got the call to do Ecosystems, I knew I had to learn those stuff. Good part is I really learned that our Life is Eternal and hence if you missed something you can do it again or not. But be true to yourself and hopefully your family and friends for they will comeback and connect with you next time, even though they may or may not like you now....it is a human thing that they accept....

    So, the good part is all is well when it ends well....
     
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    Finding one's purpose, how one can make a difference to others, how one can be a part of the world and the world a part of him/her - that might be a worthwhile ''purpose.''

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    But I don't believe there is one, objective ''purpose'' of which we all should be striving. It would probably differ for everyone, and maybe the purpose of one's life is to define it for one's self.
     
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    I think, the purpose is to live a decent life, now and for the next 15 Billion years. This is where people have said...Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    As to 15 Billion life span, our religion points to that until science proves it....After that we will remain as Energy in the so called Dark Energy arena. It is like science fiction creating science fact...kind of thing.

    So, because the Universe is big (actually Multi-verse), and soon we will learn the mechanism, we will do well among other creatures...any more than this, we may have to discuss Karma....that can be in this section...thank you.
     
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  17. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I'd like to discuss karma, if you would like to.

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    Since it is my OP, I can...

    To start with, the understanding of Karma was given to us by Lord Krishna via Bhagavad Gita...so you can read as much as you can from the Gita via Google ...perhaps...

    Some side benefits:

    The Gita is Hindu people Bible....plain and simple...perhaps because it has some thoughts by Lord Krishna who is a Mid Level God. Just look for Karma and do not worry about back stories...

    Mid Level God means, after so many years as a party to a civilization (in case of Lord Krishna, their civilization is about five billion years old) and if you have done some serious Karma...In his case he helped the Humans on Planet Earth for a long time plus did stuff in the Universe...so, he got promoted to be a Mid Level God.

    Real God is several Trillion years old, beyond our Universal time frame...but She can provide Godship to lower level (a few Billion years) creatures...that is a different story. That is because the Universe has Governance System that needs tons of people including Angels....(My family have about five Angels, I am sure you do too)

    The key here is Karma. That means, all entities at Krishna's Civilization are not Gods, even though, Hindus call them Gods...because they are so high up in the daisy chain....

    And to Gita, I was there when Lord Krishna talked about it some 12,300 years ago....I got that information from my meditation. That means, I too am working on it...using the Karma System.

    That means, I am doing my stuff this life and Dear God is sending me (actually our team) to be trained next life at a higher level and come back to Planet Earth, some 500 years from now to help out. I have no idea, what it would be. So, we shall see.

    The fact that Dear God is involved, means my Karma each time is set up to manage the next time....It is the understanding of the Creation and the support that one envisions is where I need to go...and it is working properly. Bottom Line, I work with the Universal Governance with my boss is Dear God at the highest.

    So, read and understand what you can and then ask questions...I will do the best I can. Please note that once you set up your Karma...the following lives, you would be in that position...it is like getting a degree and then doing the work.

    Hence I am connected to Lord Krishna long ago and the whole God's Workers for the Planet. Problem is, I do not know everything as a Human, so I do what is needed...that is my Engineering and Social Science work, that is basically minimum...but few things are known to me so that I can answer them as needed or tell you, I can not... as needed.

    Sorry to explain stuff outside of Karma...that is because you can understand what Karma does....and I will do my best to provide a better understanding, even if you do not use that information....

    Oh...Humans have two units - Self and Inner-Self. In case of Paul Anka, his channeling is actually his inner-self. And Heaven is slowly connecting to us at Human level (Self) to understand what is what...since we all have to do work. It is like growing up and get educated and have a JOB...No more play things...THANK YOU
     
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    I thought I knew a lot about karma, until you shared that with me, kmguru.

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    Do you believe that karma is in essence, universal?
     
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    YES...specially when a person from a Five Billion Year Old Civilization from another galaxy says that...I was told the galaxy name, that is in numbers...(not Andromeda) but I forgot...

    There is more to life than what you read in Books...
     
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  21. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    In my mind there is no purpose in life other than what you assign to it yourself.

    Results may vary.
     
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  22. kmguru Staff Member

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    Thank you. That is what I am doing....to save the Planet...

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