the real collusion investigation.

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    anti abortion law ...

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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    No he is not. Any security issues of national importance, would not be made public and would be considered in "closed door" session.

    And if you dare insert that "there will be leaks", speaks volumes of your attitude toward the vast majority of government professionals and representatives of the people.
    That is a flat out cowardly lie. Prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That is a fat out lie, Barr applied for the job with promise he would serve Trump.
    No you cannot break the law, when the law demands your due dilligence.
    That is a flat-out cowardly lie. Prove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  5. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    Hi, can you explain what you mean?
     
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  7. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Not certain where it will lead, but it should prove interesting
     
  8. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're just an idiot.
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Repetition will not make that come true.

    There is of course no such investigation. There is nothing to investigate, that Trump wants dredged up and back in the news. The Republican media feed will have to invent something, but it will not exist outside that media feed.

    The actual origin of the Mueller investigation is well documented public information, and Trump is not going to touch that stuff - he wants all that stuff buried and ignored.
     
  10. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    Okay.

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  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. When Trump empowers a man who tortures and kills thousands within his country every year, that makes him a horrible leader. We should be supporting Churchills, not Hitlers.
    You claimed he spent his own money to campaign.

    I demonstrated that not only did he get money from donors - he embezzled that money.
    Ah. So if you send me money for a charity, and I instead buy myself luxury stuff from a company I own, I have done the right thing?

    I am starting to see why you support Trump. You sound a lot like him.
    No, it would not be. Dumb question.
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Look up due diligence. (I spelled it wrong the first time)
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/due diligence#note-1

    1. is what Mueller exercised.
    c. is Mueller's defense against accusation that his investigation was illegal.

    In fact I would argue that Mueller's extreme sensitivity to the ability to issue a warrant to a sitting president is now cause for the defense to claim there is no cause at all, let alone commit an illegal act.

    But remember Mueller is a Republican, so there cannot be a claim for an adversary relationship, only due diligence. The rest he left up to Congress in the understanding that his report would reviewed in its entirety. It is Barr who is obstructing justice by making arbitrary judgements of what part of Muellers report Congress shall have access to.

    The law reads that Congress "shall" have access to the entire report, but the portions may be subject to "closed door" hearings for national security reasons.
     
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  13. wegs With brave wings, she flies . . . Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, I understand due diligence, I was confused in your reply above, but I see you're in defense of Mueller. Okay, thank you.
     
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  14. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Try working with facts, sometime. Philosophy works a lot better when it does.

    Seriously—

    —how does that work?

    And why would you evade explaining that?
     
  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Do you think that Iran is a supplier of uranium?
     
  16. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    Philosophy work better when you understand the alternative is full of hate and misunderstanding. I simply suggest you don't have the means of understanding the battle between good and evil.

    Hilary has done nothing to overcome. Philosophy is about overcoming.

    To judge someone is unavoidable. Its just too bad most bias is formed at the heart of oneself.

    You are an inexperienced freedom maker. Jovial, objective, but inexperienced in that which I consider the true evils of today.
     
  17. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    Wow ignorant of the uranium deal. Must be blissful. Well I can tell you they don't buy it from other countries.
     
  18. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    None of that happens outside the Congo. But you don't care about black people.

    You grossly missrepresent the meaning of embezzlement. I would like to have a long discussion about this. It happens between a business owner and a business worker.

    Or between the government and an individual.

    I can't steal or missapropriate what is mine. Unless I use it for truly nefarious purpose.

    Welfare giving money to people who do drugs is more "embezzlement" by standard. Taking tax money from citizens and giving it to gangsters and cartel members by the billions.
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Trump (and his ally Kim Jong Un) did all those things. Perhaps you are replying to a different post? Or just throwing "black" out there because you are losing the argument?
    Nope. Embezzlement is the misappropriation of funds placed in someone else's trust. For example, people donating to Trump's re-election campaign, believing it would go towards Trump's re-election - and instead being used to pump up Trump property profits.
    So once again. You give me $100 to help starving kids. I buy an air conditioner with the money because I am hot. You think that's just fine, because once you gave me the money, it was mine?

    I am very glad you don't have anything to do with other people's money.
     
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  20. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    To tell you the plans of truly evil men... I would not dare to surmise. Except they prepare for the worst and plan it as well.

    To say I recognize truly evil men is an understatement.
     
  21. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I am suggesting that only evil men recognize evil men. Innocents are usually the victims of evil men.
     
  22. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    I don't loose arguments. You will apologize eventually or cease to post. I have defiantly been in worse situations. I just believe life is worse in the Congo and Africans can't apply for asylum because border security has been overlooked for so long.

    I bought an air conditioner that pays for starving kids. Its a win-win. Not embezzlement. Embezzelment makes angry proprieter. You didn't donate therefore your opinion ceases to matter.

    Its not your money its not your business its just something you don't understand that makes you angry.

    You can't pay yourself unless you open up an air bnb.
     
  23. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

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    Unfortunately you are missing a couple of scenarios. (=

    I'm a little bit fearless
     

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