the real collusion investigation.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Beaconator, May 15, 2019.

  1. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    I don't watch CNN too long. Just too negative.

    Not my job to figure out my own talking points. Don't you think ive expressed enough self reflection?
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  3. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    CNN now! Some random guy

    "The democrats strategy is to take..."
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  5. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    David Chalian is smart.
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  7. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    So they aren't for the people or by the people
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Beaconator: CNN says some unnamed judge issued a subpoena for Trumps financial records.
    Iceaura: CNN named the judge.
    Beaconator: I don't watch CNN too long.

    A classic example of Trump supporter rigor.

    Trump supporter: I just watched a news show and they said that Clinton was GUILTY!
    Guy: Actually they said she was not guilty.
    Trump supporter: Yeah, well I don't listen to all the words.
  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

    I didn't claim it was a criminal scheme. I claimed he embezzled the money - which he did.
    Right. If Trump harassed the veteran and then took that money instead and bought one of his properties a new portrait of himself you'd be fine with it. Especially if he called the veteran a loser because he was captured by the Viet Cong.
    The right thing to do would have been to grab her crotch then threaten to sue her if she ever mentioned it to anyone.
    I have indeed; I have stood up against Trump. I stand with the women suing him for sexual assault. Do you?
    Grab her by the crotch? Rape her? Stick your hand in her pants? Grab her breast? You mean do things like that?
  10. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    Sanctuary city laws release dog rapist onto the streets of Oregon.
  11. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    So under your own admission it is not illegal.
    Surreptitious and hypothetical
    Unsubstantiated and uncited
    Like the poor pornstar who gained money and publicity for going public?
    I haven't heard one single allegation of rape.
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

    I said it was embezzling. You seem to have moved to "he wasn't embezzling" to "it's not illegal to embezzle." Good; things are moving in the right direction. In another half dozen posts or so I expect you to transition to "he's never been convicted of it so technically he's not guilty of it."
    Trump mocked a celebrated US veteran for being captured by the enemy - fact
    Trump has embezzled his supporter's money - fact
    Trump mocked a gold star family - fact
    The video of him saying that he grabbed women by the crotch is public record. Let me know if you need a link.
    No. She was not sexually assaulted. She just had sex with him, then Trump paid her off so his wife wouldn't find out. I was specifically referring to Jessica Leeds, Ivana Trump, Kristin Anderson, Jill Harth, Temple Taggart, Kathy Heller, Karena Virginia, Mindy McGillivray, Rachel Crooks, Ninni Laaksonen, Jessica Drake, Summer Zervos, Cassandra Searles and Natasha Stoynoff. Natasha was an interesting case; Trump waited until his pregnant wife was in another room, then pushed Natasha into another empty room, and per Natasha, then "pushed me against the wall and forced his tongue down my throat."
    "Then he jams his penis inside her for the first time in more than 16 months. Ivana is terrified … It is a violent assault. . . She said 'he raped me.'" - From Trump's 1990 divorce proceedings.

    But she's just a woman, eh?
  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    You are posting falsehoods. It is your moral and ethical responsibility to not do that.
    They are professional lawyers, with informed and experienced opinions, who don't all work for the firm you "bet" they did. The count is over 900 and climbing.
    No. Documented and public.

    You are reposting falsehoods you got from liars.
    The excuse that you have been fooled by them only lasts until you have had the opportunity to correct your folly - after, you are responsible for allowing yourself to be deceived and fooled and played like that. Your posting of lies is on you.
  14. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    if I move five dollars into a bank that is technically embezzlement. The question I have already answered is that I don't believe the evidence supports a criminal offence. And you have substantiated that claim in your own words and with your own cited evidence.
    So a little verbal mockery and testimony from a closed divorce case. 40 years ago!

    Unsaintly hatefucking maybe, disputably illegal if violent intent can be proven... But there are plenty of middle eastern countries who pride themselves on the rape of their women/"wives" and I don't see you standing up for them, so I just don't see the heroism behind your comments as either timely or on a large enough scale to facilitate the scope of "corruption"

    That is a long list of names though. But I doubt any have any validity if pornstars are being paid for while innocent people go unnoticed.

    You see as having been a member of the justice system I believe it still works well in today's world.
  15. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    I'm posting information I freely believe. Played like what? If you have it all figured explain it. If not there is no amount of unsubstantiated claims that are going to fill my definition of corruption.
  16. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    Lol democratic socialism. Sorry I'm watching some good news discussing the issue

    A million people vote on how to spend a million dollars. Lol lol

    We all get a dollar. Lol lol

    43% of Americans approve of socialism

    That's like 43% of us believing we should con-scribe the other 60% into renting.
  17. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    You don't know what the evidence is.
    The people who do say it supports criminal indictment and prosecution.
    You are not. You are posting falsehoods you believe for no reason.
    Like a US Republican voter - the world's biggest sucker, the most pathetic patsy walking the planet.
    Or substantiated claims. You pay no attention to substance.
    Anybody want to go through that mess and try to untangle what somebody trying to make sense might have meant by it?
  18. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

    Okay, as I read this, your post count is 10,770.
    Make a post somewhere, and then report back here what you think it is.
    Anyhoo - this is off-topic... Maybe raise it in the relevant section.
  19. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    OK, I'll just post it here.
    This then should register as post count 10,771

    And it did........

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    Seems that I mixed up post #s and total post counts....duhhhhhhh....

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  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

    If someone gives you $5 and tells you "please give this to those orphans" and you put it in your bank account, then that is literally embezzlement.
    Do you now acknowledge that Trump was accused of rape?
    So there are Midde Eastern rapists, which means Trump's rape is OK?

    So you'd be OK with a friend of yours being killed as long as people are being killed in the Middle East? Or is it that you don't know those women, so it's OK?
    I donate $10K a year to charities. One is Tostan, an organization that fights for women's rights and education in third world countries. Another is Catholic Charities, an organization that maintains rape crisis centers - centers that support rape and assault victims (like the women Trump assaulted) and help them get justice.

    How about you?
    So they are all guilty sluts because two were porn stars? You are a perfect Trump supporter.
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

    Yep. They like the military, the US road system, air traffic control, the CDC, the national parks, water and sewer systems, police and fire departments etc etc.

    I take it you hate those socialist organizations.
    That's not how it works today. One man (Trump) decides to spend ten billion dollars. We get nothing. LOL! LOL! LOL!
  22. Write4U Valued Senior Member

    Oh, boy. The Trump crowd has gone completely bonkers. This is unbelievable.

    Alt Right releases a psychopath onto the streets of the US is more appropriate.
  23. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    Your donations are gracious.

    They said use this for the Trump campaign and he did so twice. That's having your cake and eating it too. As opposed to spilling it all over the floor like you dropped it in Vegas.

    I understood he was accused of rape a long time ago. There just aren't many (if any... )Cases of a man convicted of raping his wife. So why should I "as a judge" believe Trump would be?

    "In a variety of cultures, marriage after a rape of an unmarried woman has been treated historically as a "resolution" to the rape, that is, a "reparatory marriage". Although laws that exonerate the perpetrator if he marries his victim after the rape are often associated with the Middle East,[159] such laws were very common around the world until the second half of the 20th century. For instance, as late as 1997, 14 Latin American countries had such laws,[160] although most of these countries have abolished them"- some random person on Wikipedia

    You don't like it go edit it. It hasn't changed in years.
    Last edited: May 23, 2019

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